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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: Split for sure... | ||||
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| Buzzer57 | posted on 02-09-2002 @ 12:41 AM |    | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Feb. 02  | It appears that the split will happen sometime after Mania, I know this is not new news, but it's actually on WWF website. "With two huge pay-per-views on the horizonand the anticipated splitting of the brands" From the Ross Report. What I don't get is why go through all the trouble of the nWo and "poisoning the WWF" if there's going to be a split anyway. 2 months isn't along time. And are they going to make it nWo or WCW. It's obvious that something has to be done 'cause talent is suffering. After all they were suppose to split last Sept. or Oct. after WCW had things back in the works. That was also from the Ross Report. Maybe good ol' J.R. is as bad as Mean Gene. | ||||
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| posted on 02-10-2002 @ 6:22 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jun. 01 | When the nwo signed with Vince I heard a rumor that they would be allowed to appear on both after the spl F Leykis!!! O & A To L.A.!!! | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 02-11-2002 @ 8:34 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | well, when they do split i hope they give guys a chance. i have been thinking...why not put most of the main event talent on one show, and allow the other show to showcase the up and coming talent, plus a few of the other upper card guys. sure it might make the ratings slag a little for a few weeks, but once people see that they are getting a better WRESTLING product on that show they will watch...but thats just my take on it | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 02-11-2002 @ 8:49 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Here is my take on the split. Some people like wrestling. Some people like entertainment. Yes, some guys deserve better pushes, but not everyone. Guys like Jericho when he loses the belt to HHH, RVD, the Hardyz, Edge and Christian, Rhyno, Chris Benoit, the Dudley Boyz, Tazz deserve more time. However, I honestly do not care about the Raven's, Justin Credibles, Tommy Dreamers, Scotty 2 Hotty's of the world. Face it those guys were best in ECW. WWF will not have those extreme matches that everyone loved. It is just too dangerous for the wrestlers and a liability for the WWF. The Main Eventers, no matter how much you like or dislike them get the average fan to watch wrestling. Many people know who the Rock, Austin, HHH , Ric Flair, now Hogan, Hall and Nash are? These are the guys people want to see and pay there money for. Example, do you think anyone gave a shit about the Wizards in the NBA before Jordan came back. NO. They care about Jordan. Raw and Smackdown should be for the main guys. Heat and Excess should be for strictly wrestling. Throw in a main eventer there every so often to keep it interesting. I say forget the split. I for one, will not pay for 2 PPV's a month, especially now they are raising prices.  | ||||
| JackDan1974 | posted on 02-11-2002 @ 10:07 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 01 | Yeah Yeah we have been hearing of a split for almost a year now. I will beileve it when it happens. | ||||
| Hello! Hello! Diamond Dust! Hello! | posted on 02-11-2002 @ 11:19 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: The problem with this argument is that in wrestling, you have to realize stars have certain shelf lives. Yes, Ric Flair is still around, but he can only be around as the "half-owner of the WWF," something you can't sell on a PPV. What are you gonna do, promote "Ric Flair is going to half-own the WWF on Summerslam, BUY IT NOW!" ? No. But you CAN promote "Austin is gonna wrestle Hulk Hogan" on a PPV, and you can do that frequently because unlike Flair those guys FULL TIME wrestle (although that's debatable with Hogan ;) )So, you have to have full time marketable wrestlers out there. So, now I ask you: Is Austin gonna still be able to be full time in five years as his injuries keep on piling up? What if the Rock actually becomes successful with his movie career and turns into Roddy Piper showing up once a year? What if HHH reinjures his quad tonight on Raw and his career is over? What if, all of a sudden, these guys and the Kurt angles and Chris Jerichos of the world aren't marketable in a year, just like the Warrior or Sting became after awhile? You have to have backup and you have to keep on creating new stars. Look at what happened to the WWF when HHH left. We waited for six months for HHH to come back so the product got interesting again. Now, look at when Austin was out for a year. Was there the same outcry? Not as much. Now, who's a bigger star? Austin or HHH? You bet your ass Austin is. So, how come the opposite didn't happen? The reason is because when Austin was gone, the product did not suffer much at all because HHH was being elevated and the Rock was getting his first run as top babyface and there were new guys on top all around to keep things fresh. When HHH left, the WWF refused to elevate anybody except for Jericho and they really didn't do that whole heartedly until Vengeance, when it was time for HHH to come back anyway. So, yeah, people pay to see Flair and Austin and Jericho and all those guys, but they might not be there in a year. So, what are you gonna do then? If they're not there, people pay less. You have to create new guys people want to see to make up for that, then. And yes, the WWF CAN create them. Look at the Rock. Back in 1997, he was a laughing stock. Should the WWF had just quit on him, TeenWeek? I think you'd agree with me, that wouldn't have been smart in hindsight. Stone Cold was some charisma-less idiot who never spoke when he first came into the WWF. Should the WWF had just quit on him? How about HHH? How much did he SUCK at first? Yeah, you laugh at Justin Credible now, but how do you know he doesn't have something in him to make him a new breakout star? They haven't TRIED to give him a character. Should the WWF just quit on him like people said they should've done with Rocky Maivia? So, you see, this split will take up less top spots and open them up for guys like this to become stars. It's that simple. The WWF has too many guys to do it with one fed, so they almost HAVE to make two if they are to elevate new guys, and I think it's the smartest decision possible. And, again, you can cry all you want about PPVs, but if two PPVs a month leads to more money for the WWF than they'd be stupid NOT to do it, no matter how much people would cry. It's just like the Yanks or Mets raising ticket prices. If you cry so much, don't buy them. But, you know what? People do. And they make more money. It's just SMART BUSINESS and if you don't think it's fair, well, then the WWF, the Mets, and the Yankees probably would say FUCK YOU as they collect more money than they would've had under the current setup. And DAMMIT THATS WHAT BUSINESSES SHOULD BE LIKE! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO! | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 02-11-2002 @ 4:02 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: The plan for PPVs was that each half gets 4 of their own PPVs, and 4 PPVs will be a combined card (I believe they said the 4 are Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, SummerSlam, and Survivor Series). The single-promotion PPVs would alternate months.  | ||||
| HyBriD FN Moron is an indian giver!! I had my cool status for about 10 min. then it was gone. GONE! G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Agent WD40 Licensed to Kill My spoon is TOO BIG. (finally) Hanger-on to the JYDs for LIFE I INVENTED ORANGE MOTHERFUCKER This status is sponsored by: P®oJë©T M@¥hέm | posted on 02-11-2002 @ 5:00 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 01 | quote:that sounds good i guess.  it can't rain all the time | ||||
| Buzzer57 | posted on 02-11-2002 @ 6:10 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Feb. 02 | I for one think that the idea of the split is "A Good Thing" no seriuosly, I do like the idea of alternating months with the ppv's. If that's what they have as a plan, I think it's a good one. I was never a fan of monthly ppv's to begin with. It was nice when there only used to be 4 ppv's a year, it seemed like the story lines were better and at least you'd get the 3 or 4 hours of ppv that you were paying for. It seeems to me that once they went to 1 ppv a month that the actual wrestling time shortened by an average of 15 to 30 minutes, I mean whaen was the last full 3 hour telecast that had all wrestling in it instead of 1 1/2 hours of wrestling and 1 hour of clips or promos of what lead up to he matches. If they go to 2 feds, and alternate months I think that the product will get better 'cause they have more time to develope story lines and characters. Then they can have the 4 ppv's a year Mania, Summerslam, Survivor Series, and Rumble to be the ones where stars interact. Maybe even keep the idea of the undisputed champ, but they would have to break up the rest of the titles. Tag champs, U.S. champ, Light wieght champ(or cruiser wieght, I like that title more) and Euro champ. This would create some good matches and also give the young guys a better chance to develope. This message was edited by Buzzer57 on 2-11-02 @ 6:24 PM | ||||
| Hello! Hello! Diamond Dust! Hello! | posted on 02-11-2002 @ 6:36 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: There's been conflicting reports on this. They both state that there will be 4 "inter-promotion" PPVs, but some say that there will be two PPVs a month the other 8 months, while others say what you're saying. Perhaps the original idea was to do the 2 PPVs a month thing, but the WWF changed their minds and made it alternating, but hiked up the price of PPVs (a measley 5 more bucks, BTW, so stop whining) to make up for the projected extra revenue they now won't get? That makes sense. I wonder which one it is. And, yes, either way, I keep my position that the people who know more than I do on this stuff that work for the WWF felt it would increase money, and so that's why they're doing it, and so, if that is the case, I don't know how anyone can blame the WWF for that. HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO! | ||||
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