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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: The Sharpshooter BELONGS TO THE HARTS!!! | ||||
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| TAZZA-911 | posted on 04-03-2001 @ 11:07 AM |    | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Dec. 00  | After raiding my clothes on the weekend trying to find my dudley boyz t-shirt (D-VON get the tables for anyone who wants to know) I found my first wrestling t-shirt "THE KING OF HARTS" yep that brought a tear to my eye seeing owen again using the sharpshooter. But my tears where brought to rage after Raw, seeing Austin tapping out (why does he now?) to the sharpshooter DONE BY THE ROCK! Now when did the hell Rock get the right to use that move? Did he go through savage training in the dungeon with Stu Hart like Chris Benoit, Bret, Owen Hart, and Lance Storm? NO HE DID NOT!!! I hope someday when rock stuffs up on the manuever and breaks someone,what will he say in court against the harts..."You know its tough to be the Rock, You know how long it took to steal that move off you guys?" I say thats a dark day in wrestling to see that talentless fake steal such a great family trademark. Vince get rid of the Rock and stop trying to build bret hart out of him Casue there will only be one because he was the best there was, and the best they'll ever will be. RIP Owen Hart What are ya stupid? | ||||
| King f-tard | posted on 04-03-2001 @ 1:16 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | Sting also uses it, but it is the Scorpion death lock. Rock needed to use a submission move, and that is the best besides the half crab or crab or liontamer (walls of Jericho). I think of it as honoring Owen, not stealing.  | ||||
| HardCoreDave (TvvisTofFaTe) | posted on 04-03-2001 @ 1:30 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | the rock can use the figure 4, boston crab, clover leaf, surfboard, STF, chicken wing, etc... but the rock has never been too original  AIM: Tv v ist of FaTe "some people jus need a ruthless beating!" for wrestling news http://bounce.to/NwF Sam Adams-"theres no beer in the food, but theres food in the beer" | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 04-03-2001 @ 1:33 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | He also used the crossface in his feud with Benoit. Teens, making the world a better place to live in. | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 04-03-2001 @ 2:18 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | Tazz, you make it sound like gimmick infringement that the rock is using a wrestling hold. did you know that the sharpshooter/scorpion death lock was used by other prior to bret using it as his finisher? while he may be the most famous wwf guy to have used it, he is not owner to the patent on the hold...he does not deserve royalties on its use...it is a hold, and whomever wants to can use it...even that piece of garbage jabroni the crock | ||||
| HardCoreDave (TvvisTofFaTe) | posted on 04-03-2001 @ 6:30 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | lets jus sum the whole thread up by saying the rock enjoys semen on the back of thighs a bit too much AIM: Tv v ist of FaTe "some people jus need a ruthless beating!" for wrestling news http://bounce.to/NwF Sam Adams-"theres no beer in the food, but theres food in the beer" | ||||
| SpiderBob | posted on 04-03-2001 @ 6:36 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Well, in one way it is kind of gimmick infringement. I am sure the Rock wouldn't be happy if Al Snow decided to use the Rock Bottom. Anyway it is not like Hart is around anymore to argue with Rock. I wouldn't mind Rock vs. Hart for WWF Championship | ||||
| Cactus Sack | posted on 04-03-2001 @ 6:46 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | It doesn't bother me that the Rock uses the move. What bothers me is that the Rock can't do it right. It always looks sloppy when he does it. His crossface looked sloppy too. | ||||
| TheShocker | posted on 04-04-2001 @ 12:03 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Dec. 00 | No one cares about gimmick infringement. After all, who DIDN'T like the Stone Cold Rock Bottom? "Listen, this is HUGE in Europe right now, and everyone in Europe HATES you, except for me. Okay?" -Sid Greenfield | ||||
| SonofaDEKE | posted on 04-04-2001 @ 11:14 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | "I think of it as honoring Owen, not stealing." Are you serious? First of all do you honestly believe that the The Rock would be honoring anyone besides himself? I bet you bought that whole, "Now it is my time to entertain you" crap. Secondly, if it is some sort of way of honoring Owen it is a poor attempt. How do you consider an extremely poor immitation of a great move to be honoring someone. Get real. The Rock uses the sharpshooter because Vince told him to. It is just another way for Vince to stick it to Bret one more time. It's Vince's way of telling Bret I can still get to you. Even though you don't work here, I can still screw you Bret. Vince is trying to erase the legacy of Bret Hart, that he created. I think it is poor and looks like crap. Good post Tazz-911. I agree that some finishes should not be used by other wrestlers. Nobody owns the rights to any finish and finishes are stolen all the time (Austin stole the stunner from Johnny Ace) but some things should remain the way they were. | ||||
| AndyKoom | posted on 04-04-2001 @ 11:36 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | Yeah the stone cold v. rock match was reminiscent of what happened in 96's wrestlemania. | ||||
| Ooozing Machismo | posted on 04-04-2001 @ 11:42 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Apr. 01 | I agree with the fact that there are just certain moves you don't do. For the uninitiated...just look at the name of the move...SHARPSHOOTER...doesn't that correspond to the "HITMAN" Bret Hart and not The Rock or Stone Cold or anyone else that tries to imitate the move. To add to that, he can't even do it. I've never seen anyone but the Rock apply the Sharpshooter standing almost straight up. There have been only 4 men that could ever slap on a good Sharpshooter. The first 3 are obvious...Bret and Owen Hart, and Sting with the Scorpion Death Lock, and Jeff Jarrett when he was REALLY honoring Owen Hart the Raw after he died, and he only did it once. Vince McMahon is trying to erase the legacy of Bret Hart. He made him, so he wants to finish him off. It's all a control issue. TAKE...A LOOK...at the bad guy. | ||||
| King f-tard | posted on 04-04-2001 @ 12:58 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | After reading all this, I am flip-flopping my setiment on this issue, and think that maybe you are right about the face that Vince is once again screwing Brett, and with that the memory of Owen. I guess if you want to steal a submission move, thats the one to steal, theres no one doing it anymore in the wwf. Rock doesnt make it look even 1/4 as good as Brett or Owen did, and I remember that Tribute RAW, that was real sad, but a good show with a meaning, all for Owen. | ||||
| bluetarp | posted on 04-04-2001 @ 8:23 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Hey guys, I hate to break it to you. Reek has probably been working on that move for a long time, on orders from above. Wrestling is scripted. As real as the athletisism is, there is little originality. Tombstone or pile driver. SC Stunner or jawbreaker. etc... All moves will be recycled and renamed. Have a coupla brews and chill out. Okay damnit, I went too far! | ||||
| ~Tazz~ | posted on 04-04-2001 @ 8:36 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | i agree with bluetrap,plus the rock uses other people's moves to like the stunner on or the crossface ect. Thug Life | ||||
| Mi1o Yambag | posted on 04-04-2001 @ 11:12 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | The WWF wants to make Rock into a more complete wrestler rather than just a brawler. In case you haven't noticed, the WWF is kind of heading in that direction of making everyone look like a good wrestler. Hence the addition of the ankle lock to Angle's repatoire (sp?) and the increase of feuds based on "who's a better wrestler?" Because of this, he needs a submission move. That said, what other submission is as high-impact and will get as many crowd pops as the Sharpshooter? The only moves that have the same appeal are the Liontamer (I refuse to call it the Walls of Jericho) and the Figure Four. It wouldn't be a smart move for the WWF to have two of their top stars preforming the same submission manuever, so the Liontamer is out. As for the Figure Four, its relatively difficult to lock in, so with Rock's lack of in-ring ability, that's out. This leaves only the Sharpshooter. Moves are recycled all of the time. Don't look at this as a way to screw Bret Hart or as a way to disrespect Owen Hart. Rather, its just part of the business.  Smoke Weed Everyday | ||||
| Ooozing Machismo | posted on 04-05-2001 @ 10:34 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Apr. 01 | I hate to make this into a McMahon bashing...but since he is the human personification of evil, I don't care...McMahon is far more devious than most people here are giving him credit for. Sure the Rock does the DullShooter...but how many times has he gotten the "W" with it??? I'll answer that for you...ONCE...against William Regal. Yet he attempts the move every match. It seems as if the WWF is attempting to cheapen the move to the point to where it's viewed as not that effective, therefore tarnishing Bret Hart's image. I know that seems a little farfetched, but this is coming from a man that takes shots at former talent that's left him anytime he gets a chance(i.e. Goldust, Lex Luger, Hulk Hogan). TAKE...A LOOK...at the bad guy. | ||||
| HOSPITALIANO | posted on 04-05-2001 @ 12:08 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Hogan won with "The Leg Drop Of Doom" for almost 2 decades. IT's fixed, get over it. They don't want it to be his finisher so of course most people won't submit to it. Kind of brings up Nash's old complaint about the Cruiserweights using the powerbomb. His "Jack knife" doesn't look as impressive when earlier in the Night Juvi does it to another small wrestler and they both pop up and keep on fighting. I'm rambling, I'm sorry, I'll shut up now.  SPAZ may be dead, but Kevin is an Immortal Asshole! E-Mail Me Adopted Newbies: Matchbox20Money, paulie da bus driver and MONGO!!! | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 04-06-2001 @ 10:44 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Of course, the same could be said about pretty much ANYTHING the Rock does. Look at his belly-to-belly. This is a guy who, for the longest time, had an elbow drop for a finisher. Granted, the Rock Bottom always did the damage, but the last move was the Elbow. Rock got over by learning how to work the stick, and he did learn that well. But he didn't bother to develop any ability along the way. The guy can't wrestle worth a shit. Fans were right on the money in the Blue-Chipper days. Rocky SUCKS.  Me droogies: Two positions currently available. | ||||
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