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| Paper Boy I want my two dollars! | posted on 04-06-2002 @ 11:31 AM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01  | i want to upgrade my 128MB RDRAM PC800 Memory to somewhere around 512mb. What do i need to know when buying the new memory? I also want to upgrade to XP, is it pretty easy to change operating systems? I have backed up all my important documents to another computer, i want to start clean with this one. How would I go about cleaning out my whole c drive and if I did this would I still be able to buy the XP upgrade or would I have to buy the full version? Thank you | ||||
| SeeYouNextTuesday G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Elite Ninja Gaiden Infiltration Unit | posted on 04-06-2002 @ 11:54 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | Let me preface this by saying I know Jack Shit. He's a nice guy. Now that that's out of the way, XP upgrade requires the thing youre upgrading from to be on the computer. Or wait, maybe it doesnt. Hmm, you know what I'm just going to quit while I'm ahead. Oh, btw, there's nothing to know about RAM. Just buy any old RAM and stick it in. It's all good. See above.  ---------------------------- I'm the midnight bomber who bombs at midnight! Bad is good, baby! Down with government! Validictorian of the danked school of OA.com etiquette. | ||||
| goatweed I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed | posted on 04-06-2002 @ 12:36 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote:All you need to make sure is the the DIMMS you buy are compatible with your motherboard. Go to Crucial.Com and look for your computer - it'll tell you exactly what RAM to get based on your system's specs (at decent prices too). quote:It's very easy to do. As for which version, I would buy the full version (I have a hax0r version of it without the activation enabled, so I can install mine as many times as I like). I remember hearing the upgrade version had the full version on it, but maybe someone else could verify that for me., If you have a fast (broadband) connection, you could probably use Kazaa or Direct Connect to find and download a copy for yourself as well ( in the interest of saving you a few $$'s). Once you get a copy, all you do is put it in your CD drive and follow the on-screen prompts. Since you already made backups, you don't need to worry about that stuff. Once it's in, just make sure its running ok, and download any and all patches available via the Windows Update link or to to Cnet Catchup and get all of your windows security and patch files up to date. Reinstall your hardware and update their drivers to XP version drivers as well. That's pretty much it - shouldn't take you longer than a Sunday afternoon :-D  You can reach me through AIM or email. Feel free to contact me if you have any board questions, techie (PC) questions, or even if you just wanna chat and be bestest of friends.
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| Paper Boy I want my two dollars! | posted on 04-06-2002 @ 1:40 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | I went to crucial and I can only use rdram, which they don't sell. Sucks for me. Apparently, it is more expenisive than sdram, since they can't sell it at a low cost they don't sell it. let me get this straight, i d/l xp, burn to disk, put disk in disk drive, follow onscreen commands and voila new os. Have you noticed any problems with your version? This message was edited by Paper Boy on 4-6-02 @ 1:52 PM | ||||
| barch97 BBTB The barch gots lots a dick I kind of enjoy my anonymity on the board WOW Forum Ambassador | posted on 04-06-2002 @ 1:49 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jul. 00 | pb, I think you dropped this "-" Long Live the "Syndication Underground" | ||||
| Paper Boy I want my two dollars! | posted on 04-06-2002 @ 1:53 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | i noticed that about a week or two ago, I was just to fucking lazy to change it but since you have brought it to my attention, i have fiexd it up. | ||||
| barch97 BBTB The barch gots lots a dick I kind of enjoy my anonymity on the board WOW Forum Ambassador | posted on 04-06-2002 @ 1:58 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jul. 00 | Don't go changing... to try and please me. You never let me down before Don't imagine you're too familiar And I don't see you anymore I wouldn't leave you in times of trouble We never could have come this far I took the good times, I'll take the bad times I'll take you just the way you are ...sorry, got a little caught up in the moment there :-D Long Live the "Syndication Underground" This message was edited by barch97 on 4-6-02 @ 2:00 PM | ||||
| Bloody Anus P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal HYBRID THINKS I'M A GENIUS | posted on 04-06-2002 @ 2:02 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 00 | Also, check out your computer's documentation to check how much RAM it can take. Are you upgrading with 1 512 chip or a combined 512 using 2 256 chips? If it's one 512, another thing to make sure is the maximum that one DIMM slot can take. One of my systems takes a maximum of 384 and recommends against adding a 256 chip - it's an older system and not all 256 chips were guarenteed to work. 3 128's work fine though. All RAM is real expensive now, but you should get a name brand. Micron, Corsair, Kingston, Viking are a few name brands to check out. I've always stayed away from generic ram.Pricewatch is the best place to go to compare RAM prices (or any hardware for that matter) I don't know dick about XP, but if you want to start clean, you'll need to reformat the hard drive. There are several different ways to this. I usually use the Western Digital floppy that came with my WD drives, but there's also fdisk, and other windows mehods that I forget...
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| Tubesteak | posted on 04-06-2002 @ 5:20 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Oct. 01 | You should check out ebay for RDRAM its usually cheaper than pricewatch, get a price from pricewatch then try to beat it on ebay. I have XP Pro and 640 mg or ram and it runs well if your using a laptop it will pay for itself in the battery savings. Usually saves you about an hour due to the apm(advanced power management) You can Install XP on top of your old os or format your drive using fdisk, I would suggest a clean install as it runs much better than an upgrade. The easiest way for a new install is to go into your BIOS..during the startup press delete(usually) and set your cdrom drive as the startup device, not your harddrive, then restart the xp cd will boot your machine and start the install.  | ||||
| goatweed I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed | posted on 04-07-2002 @ 1:58 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote:I haven't noticed any problems at all - running like a champ here. quote:This is right on target. The XP CD will ask you when you install if you want to format the drive (or something like that) And you say yes, off it goes. A clean install is definitely the way to go - it sucks because you have to reinstall everything, but since you're upping to XP anyway, you're gonna have to install new driver patches on shit anyway (I did - printer, scanner, modem, etc.). Plus you should reformat/reinstall your HD at least once a year anyway, esp. if you install/uninstall/download/delete lots of games, apps and pr0n. You can reach me through AIM or email. Feel free to contact me if you have any board questions, techie (PC) questions, or even if you just wanna chat and be bestest of friends.
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| The Brain | posted on 04-07-2002 @ 2:01 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: The upgrade version does include the full WinXP Edition. However, to use it, you either have to have a previous version of Windows installed, or have the CD on hand to verify that you are actually upgrading (and not trying to cheat Microsoft put of a few bucks by not buying their full version). You can use either upgrade or full version to format the hard drive before installation (P.S.- format the drive to NTFS format if upgrading from a Win 9.x version). As for RAM, just check your motherboard's manual/documentation. It will tell you how many megabytes of RAM each memory slot can hold. If a slot can hold 512MB, for example, then buy one 512 RAM chip, place it in Slot 1, and move the 128 to Slot 2.  I'll conquer the world long before Kingpin ever finds "Pinky" Now, I must return to the Lab to prepare for tomorrow night... This message was edited by The Brain on 4-7-02 @ 2:08 PM | ||||
| Paper Boy I want my two dollars! | posted on 04-07-2002 @ 5:06 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: I always thought that you needed to have equal amounts of Ram in each slot. My motherboard has 4 slots, I was going to go with 256mb in the first two slots and leave the other two empty. | ||||
| barch97 BBTB The barch gots lots a dick I kind of enjoy my anonymity on the board WOW Forum Ambassador | posted on 04-07-2002 @ 5:11 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jul. 00 | That used to be the case back in the good old days, pb. Hasn't been an issue for quite a while though. I don't know of any systems that still require equal pairs of ram. Long Live the "Syndication Underground" | ||||
| Paper Boy I want my two dollars! | posted on 04-07-2002 @ 5:23 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | I did some checking and you were half right. When installing memory, note the following: The four RIMM sockets are grouped into two banks: Bank 0 (labeled on the board as RIMM1 and RIMM2) Bank 1 (labeled on the board as RIMM3 and RIMM4) Bank 0 must be populated first ensuring that the RDRAM installed in RIMM1 and RIMM2 is identical in speed, size, and density. For example, the minimum system configuration would use two 64 MB RIMM modules of PC600 or PC800 RDRAM. If the desired memory configuration has been achieved by populating Bank 0, then Bank 1 should be filled with two Continuity RIMMs. If memory is to be installed in Bank 1, the RIMM modules installed in RIMM3 and RIMM4 must be identical in size and density to each other, and match the speed of the RIMM modules in Bank 0. The RIMM modules do not, however, need to match those in Bank 0 in size and density. For example, if Bank 0 has two 128 MB RIMMs of PC800 RDRAM, Bank 1 would require PC800 RDRAM also, however, any other supported RIMM modules such as 64 MB or 192 MB could be used. This message was edited by Paper Boy on 4-7-02 @ 6:10 PM | ||||
| goatweed I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed | posted on 04-07-2002 @ 7:10 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote:Is NTFS really all that better than FAT32? When I upped from 98SE I stuck to FAT32 because once you format to NTFS, there is no going back to FAT32. So far I haven't noticed any problems keeping the FAT32 format - would I have really gained anything in the way of performance? You can reach me through AIM or email. Feel free to contact me if you have any board questions, techie (PC) questions, or even if you just wanna chat and be bestest of friends.
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| The Brain | posted on 04-07-2002 @ 7:52 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | Paper Boy: Some older PCs did use to require pairs of RAM to be inserted for the machine to work (i.e. 32MB RAM=2 16MB sticks). Even though your manual might say it requires pairs, look at the board itself. If your current 128MB of RAM exists on one stick, then it's safe to upgrade using singular sticks of RAM. Just determine the maximum amount of RAM you can place in that slot, and be sure not to exceed it. Goatweed: As far as NTFS vs. FAT32-- NTFS is supposedly the more stable format. If you have a Win 9.x version, then you can only go with FAT32. But WinNT, 2K, and XP are designed to favor the NTFS format. FAT32=faster; NTFS=stable. Truthfully, since programs will function fine under either format, it doesn't really matter, aside from a slight more stability for your file system if you go with NTFS. I'll conquer the world long before Kingpin ever finds "Pinky" Now, I must return to the Lab to prepare for tomorrow night... This message was edited by The Brain on 4-7-02 @ 8:00 PM | ||||
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