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Cunt-Twat
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posted on 03-19-2002 @ 2:03 PM      
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Tuesday, March 19

Teenage girl dies after getting hit in the head

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COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A 13-year-old girl died after being hit in the head by a puck that was shot over the glass and caromed off another fan at an NHL game.

Brittanie Cecil died Monday night, two days after she was hurt at the game between the Columbus Blue Jackets and Calgary Flames, Children's Hospital said.

It was believed to be the first death of a fan hit by a puck at an NHL game.

"Our fans mean the world to us," said Doug MacLean, Blue Jackets general manager. "This loss has profound effect on the entire Blue Jackets family."

The shot by Espen Knutsen of Columbus flew over the high glass at the west end of the rink, glanced off another spectator and struck the girl in the head, witnesses said. After being hit, the girl was seen standing with a jacket being held to her head.

Teams warn spectators over the public-address system about pucks flying into the crowd. They also place warnings on scoreboards and on the back of each ticket.

NHL spokesman Frank Brown said Tuesday he could not recall any other fan killed by a puck.

He said one NHL player died from injuries in a game. Bill Masterton died Jan. 15, 1968, days after falling.

Although rare, spectators have been killed and seriously injured at hockey games, particularly in the low minor leagues and the amateur ranks where the glass is not as high around the rink.

A 21-year-old Canadian man died on March 5, 2000, after being struck by a shot that flew into the crowd during a South East Manitoba Hockey League game between Altona and Carman a week earlier.

A 9-year-old girl died in 1979 after being hit in the forehead during another Canadian game.

In 1984, a 10-year-old boy in Spokane, Wash., was killed when hit with a puck while watching an exhibition game between the Spokane Eagles and Spokane Chiefs.





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posted on 03-19-2002 @ 2:15 PM      
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I would say this is unlucky lottery and not sucks to be you.

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posted on 03-19-2002 @ 3:55 PM      
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quote:

caromed off another fan

Definitely unlucky lottery.

So who's going to be sued?
a) Blue Jackets
b) city of Columbus
c) Nationwide Arena
d) NHL
e) Knutsen




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Francine Banger
posted on 03-19-2002 @ 4:26 PM      
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I say a little bit of all of the above.

with the exception of E.

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posted on 03-19-2002 @ 4:50 PM      
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I don't think you can sue the NHL, the teams, or the arena, just by buying your ticket you are agreeing to a disclaimer and assuming responsibility. But I would imagine that they will be compensated without lawsuit.


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posted on 03-19-2002 @ 8:30 PM      
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That definetley does suck. To think she was supposed to have fun at this game, she never walked out of it. Shit happens...


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posted on 03-19-2002 @ 11:26 PM      
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quote:

To think she was supposed to have fun at this game, she never walked out of it.



Actually she did walk out, according to the news clip I saw (albeit with assistance and a jacket pressed to her head). Apparently the first guy that got with that same puck only suffered a small scratch.


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okterrific23
posted on 03-19-2002 @ 11:35 PM      
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Registered: May. 00
I am surprised that she died since she walked out on her own power, maybe poor hospital care may have caused to her die.



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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 12:03 AM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
quote:

I don't think you can sue the NHL, the teams, or the arena, just by buying your ticket you are agreeing to a disclaimer and assuming responsibility. But I would imagine that they will be compensated without lawsuit.
that disclaimer means nothing because you have to sign it to be valid and nowhere did you do so. it's basically just a scare tactic, and trying to establish an assumption of risk defense. You should expect to see a lawsuit in coming days, I'm taking a sports law class and we were taught the disclaimers on the back of tix were absolutely worthless. what will most likely happen will be the team and facility being sued. I'll update this if we discuss this issue in class more because of this unfortunate event.


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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 12:24 AM      
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quote:

that disclaimer means nothing because you have to sign it to be valid and nowhere did you do so. it's basically just a scare tactic, and trying to establish an assumption of risk defense.

i am by no means a lawyer or law student, but i would have to disagree. you assume the risk by sitting in those seats, you are warned, and you should therefore be responsible for what happens to yourself. i was at a mets game and a guy got clocked in the head by a pitch. he left in a strecher, but you can't blame the pitcher or the stadium because you were sitting 3 rows back. people sue way too much. take your own responsibilities.



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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 12:39 AM      
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the team will definitely say they assumed the risk..because she 1) had knowledge of the risk 2) voluntarily proceeded in the face of that risk and 3) risk must be inherent to the activity....BUT the assumption of risk doctrine has been wiped out in many states and you can not defend by those means(not sure about ohio). Her side will argue that the team had a duty to provide a safe environment to watch the sport, breached that duty, and that was the cause of the harm- could be as simple as saying hey maybe the boards should be a foot higher to try to stop pucks...I'm by no means agreeing with this at all but we do live in a very litigious society and the law is readily available to people who want to collect. Also, again I'll repeat the disclaimer really does mean nothing because in order for a waiver to be valid it needs to be signed..plus she was a minor so a waiver wouldn't be upheld anyway because she has the ability to void it. (also i'm not a law student, i'm a sports management student and for the record i hate LAW)


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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 1:18 AM      
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This is all just yet another reason why the NHL should STOP EXPANDING
quote:

could be as simple as saying hey maybe the boards should be a foot higher to try to stop pucks

I'm thinking this will happen.




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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 1:35 AM      
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quote:

This is all just yet another reason why the NHL should STOP EXPANDING



If they didnt exist this wouldnt happen would it?
I expect the team to send the family some hush money to settle things. But as froy says clearly on the back of the ticket it says they arent liable for any injury caused by balls or pucks out of play.

...oh the fun i'll have in my buisness law class thursday.



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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 2:35 AM      
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quote:

I expect the team to send the family some hush money to settle things
wouldn't doubt an out of court settlement happening
quote:

But as froy says clearly on the back of the ticket it says they arent liable for any injury caused by balls or pucks out of play.
like i said already, worthless because its unsigned..ask your blaw prof if an unsigned waiver can be valid.you'll see..it CAN attempt to establish assumption of risk but that's even tough if it's the only component


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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 2:49 PM      
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quote:

the team will definitely say they assumed the risk



I think the bottom line is that death is not one of those risks. There are some assumed risks involved in going to a hockey game that you might be able to reason, but having an aneurism is not (unless your watching the Flyers).


quote:

If they didnt exist this wouldnt happen would it?
I expect the team to send the family some hush money to settle things. But as froy says clearly on the back of the ticket it says they arent liable for any injury caused by balls or pucks out of play.



You mean if a tree doesn't fall in the woods and it hits someone.....oh nevermind.
Anyway, considering its been all over the news, I think it may be a little late for a "hush money" payment. Maybe a "We're sorry, we never fucking thought this one would happen" payment.



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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 3:18 PM      
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Her family will get a MAJOR settlement with the NHL and the BlueJackets.



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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 3:19 PM      
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I heard Opie is getting sued. Turns out the puck didnt hit the girl. Opie beat the hell out of her for the Puck!
[Oh shit!? Has it been twenty+ years yet?]

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Cunt-Twat
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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 3:23 PM      
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the girl was walking around the hospital the day before she died, and she was able to walk oiut of the stadium/arena. how then, is the NHL responsible, it's an indirect cause of death. it's no different than someone getting into a car accident on the way home from a game, and suing the arena because that's where he left from. i hate greedy people.



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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 3:27 PM      
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Cunt-Twat,
That is without a doubt the dumbest thing Ive ever heard!

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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 3:29 PM      
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quote:

I think the bottom line is that death is not one of those risks. There are some assumed risks involved in going to a hockey game that you might be able to reason, but having an aneurism is not (unless your watching the Flyers).
the risk you would be assuming is getting hit with a puck - if thats whats found to be the causal link of her unfortunate death


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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 3:42 PM      
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quote:

That is without a doubt the dumbest thing Ive ever heard!

um what is?



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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 3:46 PM      
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i was trying to figure out what was dumb, myself.


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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 3:58 PM      
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It was painful listening to Stern talk about this today. He and that hosehound Robin talking sports is like Marco extolling the virtues of eating peach. Artie and Gary were barely able to salvage that conversation. Yecch . . .

EDIT: Just found on espn.com, part of the GO Network, go.com = Coroner: Unusual sequence of events led to girl's death

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PeterDragon
posted on 03-20-2002 @ 4:40 PM      
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quote:

it's no different than someone getting into a car accident on the way home from a game, and suing the arena because that's where he left from. i hate greedy people.



may be greedy, but legal. If in your example the person drunk too much beer at the game, they can sue - I know people can sue bars for serving them when they are drunk.

I'm pretty sure Jimbo is correct about disclaimers;
I know if you go into a restaurant, and they check coats, they might have a sign that says that they are not responsible, but they ARE responsible.

In this case they will argue that the BlueJackets didn't do enough to protect fans. Even if they are able to win a case, NHL will settle out of court no doubt.

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posted on 03-20-2002 @ 7:10 PM      
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damn sloatsburg, i was about to post that story. I didnt see your link there.

Anyway, this definitely falls in the cateogry of unlucky lottery now.

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