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Austin
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posted on 03-25-2002 @ 7:13 PM      
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I saw this play and I thought it was complete bullshit. You see players doing that exact thing when they are fighting for a ball. Yes it was a foul, but definately not a flagrant. He plays with a certain level of intensity that a team NEEDS. Flagrants or not, hes does more good then bad.

Here's there story:


EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Despite calls from coaches and teammates to cool it after a fifth suspension for a flagrant foul, New Jersey Nets bad boy Kenyon Martin vowed not to change his physical game.

Martin on Monday was suspended for two more games -- his sixth and seventh of the season -- for throwing an elbow at Shareef Abdur-Rahim of Atlanta on Sunday in the fourth quarter of the Nets' 116-102 win.

The length of this penalty was mandated because Martin had eight points from flagrant fouls.

Martin, who met with NBA officials last week to ask that the officials treat him like any other player, termed this flagrant call as bogus, noting his elbow hit Abdur-Rahim in the ribs, and not the chin as crew chief Dick Bavetta said after the game.

"I'm not changing the way I play. I'm not going to change," Martin said after practice on Monday. "I'm getting paid to play. I'm getting paid to play basketball.

"So why would I change? I'm not doing it on purpose," Martin insisted. "If I was doing the it on purpose, then it would be different. I'm not doing it on purpose."

Martin said the last two flagrants he received have happened during ordinary basketball plays.

"The same things I'm doing now, I was doing in college," Martin said. "The same moves I was making then, I'm making now. It's just a target on me now I guess. It is a little more obvious now than it was before."

Nets coach Byron Scott doesn't want his fiery power forward to change his game, certainly not with the Nets on the verge of their first playoff berth since 1997-98 and a regular-season titles in both the Atlantic Division and Eastern Conference.

"You don't have to change the way you play," Scott said. "You have to change your attitude and what you do. He has to know and he has to understand. He has to focus on some of the things he does because they're watching so much. He's just not going to be allowed to do it."

The flagrant on Sunday night happened after Martin tried to back in on Abdur-Rahim in the lane. The ball came loose after he appeared to be fouled and Martin's elbow appeared to strike Abdur-Rahim.



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This message was edited by Austin on 3-25-02 @ 10:49 PM
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posted on 03-25-2002 @ 9:02 PM      
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definitely wasn't a flagrant..this is horseshit..how many flagrants would a guy like barkley or even oakley in his heyday have at this point in the season the way they are calling them this year?..i was at the game last night, working and the consensus opinion of some front office members was that the foul would be rescinded...i even helped make the tape that they were going to show to the league to argue their point...just politics that they don't want their stupid refs to look like the idiots they are.


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posted on 03-25-2002 @ 9:56 PM      
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I think Kenyon's case is similar to Rasheed Wallace's. After accumulating a few flagrants (or in Rasheed's case, technical fouls), the refs start looking for a reason to keep calling them, to the point where they tolerate far less from either player than they would from anyone else in the league.

And if you say that's unfair, you are absoulutely correct. At no point in time should the refs be thinking, "Oh, because Player So-and-So is on the floor, it's all but given he will commit a flagrant, or say something to earn a technical". Refs are supposed to be impartial during these games, and it is becoming clearer and clearer that they are not.



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Austin
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posted on 03-25-2002 @ 10:55 PM      
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quote:

and it is becoming clearer and clearer that they are not.



Dude, did you ever think of it this way? Most of the refs in the NBA are 5'6 little dudes trying to control 6'10+ basketball players in a situation where there will always be tension and intensity. Sometimes I think that they make these bias decisions out of fear of hotheads like Wallace and Martin.

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posted on 03-25-2002 @ 11:01 PM      
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im not sure which way to lean... Martin is definetly a dirty player but hes hard nose too and tries hard... that wasn't a flagrant but he does some dirty shit... anyway i like him so i don't care hes bad ass like Oak man was for the Knicks



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