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And the dumb ass German didnt even check it out yet. Thats responsible leadership.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/09/0...index.html

France, Germany skeptical of U.S. resolution


(CNN) -- A U.S.-backed proposal to enlist U.N. help for the occupation of Iraq appears "rather far from the main objective" of restoring self-rule there, France and Germany said Thursday, and they called for the United Nations to take over responsibility for the country's political reconstruction.

French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder discussed the U.S. proposal at a meeting in the German city of Dresden. Schroeder said his government has not yet seen all the details of the United States' plan, but said that from what he knows at this point, it "doesn't go far enough" to involve the United Nations in the reconstruction.

Chirac said that he and Schroeder -- both of whom opposed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March -- would study the U.S. proposal "from a very positive point of view." But he said France may recommend changes to a proposed U.N. resolution.

"It does appear to be really rather far from the main objective, which is that of transferring political responsibility to an Iraqi government as soon as possible," Chirac said.

Schroeder said the proposal may get German support only if the United Nations could "take charge of the political process, and if indeed possible, to establish an Iraqi government responsible for functioning of the country."

Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said that his country would not rule out sending a peacekeeping force to help restore order under U.N. auspices, Russia's Interfax news agency reported Thursday.

Ivanov cautioned that such a deployment would be possible if a U.N. Security Council resolution on the issue is passed unanimously and is properly worded. (Full story)

Russia also opposed the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair told reporters Thursday it is time for the allies to put pre-war differences behind them to support Iraq's reconstruction. (Blair quizzed on Iraq dossier)

"We all have same interests now -- to sustain a prosperous Iraq," Blair said. "And whatever disagreements there have been with France and Germany over issues of the war, I can assure you, they are absolutely committed to doing what they can to help Iraq succeed in future."

Under the White House's proposal, the United States would keep a "dominant role" in the Iraq occupation and be in command of any multinational peacekeeping mission, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said Wednesday.

But the resolution would give the United Nations a greater role in Iraq's political and economic reconstruction and establish what Powell termed a "political horizon" for the restoration of self-rule. (Full story)
Yeah, but we suck.

We're only going to the UN now because we can't afford Iraq anymore but we're still not going to cede any political or military power in Iraq.

Sadly, I think it's time to agree on the fact that this war, like possibly all the ones we've involved ourselves in since WWII, was stupid.
Quote:Germany and France, on our case again.
care?
AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


All you fucking right wingers who proclaimed the UN was impotent and pointless, and should disban.......

well now Georgie Boy is there hat in hand asking for help.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


All you fucking right wingers who proclaimed the UN was impotent and pointless, and should disban.......

well now Georgie Boy is there hat in hand asking for help.

Hat in hand? Hardly.

If the UN doesn't get involed now then their really is no point to them.
Yes hat in hand,
or did you not read or hear of the forecasts which prove we have neither the manpower nor the money to staff a force of sufficient size for the protracted time required.

The UN is a confederation of nations,
it's NOT NATO or some similar "Do as we say" group.

Our arrogance has been a disgrace.

much like my spelling.
I can't believe you managed a complete thought in response to drooling post.
Wow, I started a thread that garned a Silera response, Im honored.

I just hate how both of those countries are always on our dick, like we need to consult with them on all things international. Fuck them. Who the fuck are they anyway. A fucking car making country and a wine making country, real fucking contributors.
That response is why we're doomed.

If countries don't agree with us, they're worthless. Forget history, culture, the fact that the language we speak and the very basis of how our society is formed was predated by these countries. Ignore the fact that they have a better standard of living than we do, quality state sponsored education and medical coverage, and progressive labor laws.

Fuck art, and engineering, and the fact that they were our allies up until maybe this year.

We're always right. Our country and it's policy makers are omnicient and infallible.

We're Americans and therefore we're better.
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That response is why we're doomed.

If countries don't agree with us, they're worthless. Forget history, culture, the fact that the language we speak and the very basis of how our society is formed was predated by these countries. Ignore the fact that they have a better standard of living than we do, quality state sponsored education and medical coverage, and progressive labor laws.

Fuck art, and engineering, and the fact that they were our allies up until maybe this year.

We're always right. Our country and it's policy makers are omnicient and infallible.

We're Americans and therefore we're better.

Exactly. Jeez, why doesnt everyone see that. Its so simple.
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