college fuckin football Who is # 1 in BCS 2004

[furlando]

ok you silly fuckers, throw away the baseballs. Lets play with some pig skin.
If you throw it, I will catch it. I'm the meanest tight end on the field. I can throw a block with the best of them. I can split your defense and leave you with your jock around your anckles. score one for the fur ball... See ya all in Aug.:bouncy:

[Flock of Moosen]

You can get a lot of pigskin off of this thing.

Hogzilla!

[The Brain]

Here I was hoping for a serious discourse on the highly hypocritical NCAA and their "college athletics" system, where it's really all about the bottom line of billions of dollars in television revenue, and not about young men and women enjoying athletics while getting a solid education.

I wuz robbed!

[Flock of Moosen]

Originally posted by The Brain
Here I was hoping for a serious discourse on the highly hypocritical NCAA and their \"college athletics\" system, where it's really all about the bottom line of billions of dollars in television revenue, and not about young men and women enjoying athletics while getting a solid education.

Okay, we can do that if you so desire.

Looks like the BCS formula has been overhauled again. What does that mean? Probably more bullshit that will be picked apart as always come the end of the season. Heaven forbid there is some sort of playoff format. Yeah, I know, it's all about the money. Well to that I say these people that have the power to change it, yet still bitch and moan about who is truly #1, can shove their bowl games up their asses.

BCS formula updated AGAIN

[The Brain]

As far as I'm concerned, no system will ever be correct until these kids start getting paid for their playing time.

Sorry, a scholarship and a tiny stipend for food isn't enough. Not when the NCAA makes billions off a seemingly endless list of sponsored bowl games and their TV contracts, not to mention regular merchandising (jerseys, video games, etc.), but keeps the athletes locked in a rigid set of draconian rules all designed to keep them from profiting off their own talent. Hell, a coach can move to a different (and more successful) program with no repercussions... but if a player wants to leave for greener pastures, to get more playing time, or simply because the team isn't getting better (perhaps because the famed coach just left?), he/she loses a year of eligibility.

Think about when Roy Williams left Kansas for UNC-- what about the Kansas players left behind? If they wanted to follow him to his new school, they couldn't play for a year. He, however, could start coaching and recruiting right away. They would be better off just leaving early for the pros, rather than stay in a faltering college program... sound fair to you?

This may apply more to basketball players (who can jump early), so there <i>is</i> more incentive to stay and finish all 4 (or 5, or however long it takes them) years until graduation. But it really needs to be done more for football players, especially since the NFL won the right to keep underclassmen with less than (what was the amount? 3 years? Or until their equivalent junior class comes up, some such stupid rule.) of college experience from entering the draft. <b>Pay these kids</b>. Stop hiding behind the aura of the "student-athlete". Stop pretending that the only reason <a href=http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/acc/2004-06-29-miami-williams_x.htm target=new>the Miami Hurricanes have recruited Willie Williams, he of the 11-- yes, <b>eleven</b>-- arrests</a> is because they think he'll graduate with a 3.8 GPA, and not that maybe he can run a 3.8 while chasing down the opposing QB.

It's a fucking joke, that's what it is.

[tricia]

Originally posted by The Brain
Here I was hoping for a serious discourse on the highly hypocritical NCAA and their \"college athletics\" system, where it's really all about the bottom line of billions of dollars in television revenue, and not about young men and women enjoying athletics while getting a solid education.

I wuz robbed!

don't be silly, there's no women's sports in college

[header]

I will not comment on the upcoming season so as to not jinx it. Like I have for the past decade.

[JuiceHead]

Originally posted by The Brain
As far as I'm concerned, no system will ever be correct until these kids start getting paid for their playing time.

Sorry, a scholarship and a tiny stipend for food isn't enough. Not when the NCAA makes billions off a seemingly endless list of sponsored bowl games and their TV contracts, not to mention regular merchandising (jerseys, video games, etc.), but keeps the athletes locked in a rigid set of draconian rules all designed to keep them from profiting off their own talent. Hell, a coach can move to a different (and more successful) program with no repercussions... but if a player wants to leave for greener pastures, to get more playing time, or simply because the team isn't getting better (perhaps because the famed coach just left?), he/she loses a year of eligibility.

Think about when Roy Williams left Kansas for UNC-- what about the Kansas players left behind? If they wanted to follow him to his new school, they couldn't play for a year. He, however, could start coaching and recruiting right away. They would be better off just leaving early for the pros, rather than stay in a faltering college program... sound fair to you?

I disagree. The big difference between college football and the NFL is that these kids in college are playing for more than the almighty dollar. Being a former college football player, I know first hand that you are playing for pride and you are fueled by emotion. I played for a brief stint after college and it was a completly different experience. When you are getting paid for it, the sport becomes a job and you lose a lot of that emotion. ~

The GAME DAY atmosphere is indescribable in the NCAA. When you have 80-100,000 fans screaming, the bands playing, etc a player gets goose bumps just thinking about it.


The fact that you get to go to college and not pay a dime for it, (for me, that was worth almost $150,000) is more than enough.

Why do colleges recruit these athletes who run a 4.2/40? Simple, they want to win.

This is why I like NCAA football much more than the NFL. For those who know football, you see many players taking plays off in the NFL. If there is a run play going the other way, you will see 3-4 players loafing (both on Offense and Defense). In the NCAA, you very rarely see this same type of behavior (on any competitive team anyway).

As for my prediction, USC to repeat!:thumbup:

[Topper Harley]

Originally posted by header
I will not comment on the upcoming season so as to not jinx it. Like I have for the past decade.

notre dame will suck no matter what you say.

[header]

Any word on Williams?