Bush says forests need to be thinned

[The Brain]

Originally posted by Flock of Moosen
Not that I care either way because I never vote. As far as I'm concerned they are all worthless, lying assholes and not one of them are any better than the rest. They tell you what you want to hear during their campaigns, but then turn around once elected and don't follow through.

That is the sort of apathy that politicians live for. It lets them know they can act against their constituents' interests (for the most part) with impunity, because there will be no backlash.

Granted, sometimes they take it too far (see: California), and they pay for it. But for the most part, they figure, and perhaps rightly so, that most folks are too busy, too mistrustful, too lazy or too jaded to pay much attention to politics. And those who do pay attention are usually in special interest groups who can afford to get the politician's attention.

[Flock of Moosen]

Originally posted by The Brain

Originally posted by Flock of Moosen
Not that I care either way because I never vote. As far as I'm concerned they are all worthless, lying assholes and not one of them are any better than the rest. They tell you what you want to hear during their campaigns, but then turn around once elected and don't follow through.

That is the sort of apathy that politicians live for. It lets them know they can act against their constituents' interests (for the most part) with impunity, because there will be no backlash.

Granted, sometimes they take it too far (see: California), and they pay for it. But for the most part, they figure, and perhaps rightly so, that most folks are too busy, too mistrustful, too lazy or too jaded to pay much attention to politics. And those who do pay attention are usually in special interest groups who can afford to get the politician's attention.

So, I'm supposed to act like I care and believe what they tell me? Sorry, been burned too many times to give a shit anymore.

It is what it is and no matter who we put into office, it will more than likely be the same result.

[HydratedPeach]

Originally posted by FollowThisLogic
And anyway, who would you rather have in there? Gore? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Um... yeah. Hence the reason I voted for him. Duh, Pops.

[CriticsLoveSnatch]

I don't think you need to worry about him anymore. Unless there is a miracle, I don't see him standing a chance at re-election in 2004.

Um...I truly wish you were right but, have yo been paying attention to all these approval ratings and polls? much of America sees him posing in a fighter jet and eats that shit right up. he's one of the most popular presidents in recent memory...I really hope and pray he doesn't get re-elected, and i'll be voting against him, but I wouldnt hold my breath. :disappointed:

[Flock of Moosen]

Originally posted by CriticsLoveSnatch

I don't think you need to worry about him anymore. Unless there is a miracle, I don't see him standing a chance at re-election in 2004.

Um...I truly wish you were right but, have yo been paying attention to all these approval ratings and polls?

As a matter of fact I just did a few days ago and then again just now to make sure. He is at like 53%. To me that is not very good or promising.

[The Brain]

So, I'm supposed to act like I care and believe what they tell me? Sorry, been burned too many times to give a shit anymore.

Well... yeah. Politicians are supposed to act like they care about you; show that you care that they are representing you and your interests correctly. Hell, even if you didn't vote for the person, remeber that once they are office, they answer to you (not you directly, obviously, but everyone in that district/city/state/country/whatever). If you don't speak your mind to tell them, how can they know they're "burning" you, as you put it?

It is what it is and no matter who we put into office, it will more than likely be the same result.

Are you familiar with the name <a href=http://www.usnews.com/usnews/doubleissue/builders/articles/30moses.htm target=_blank>Robert Moses</a>*? He is the man who is essentially responsible for designing and constructing modern-day New York-- all the bridges, tunnels, expressways, the U.N. He wielded tremendous, almost absolute power between the 1930's to 60s. The thing was, he was an <i>appointee</i>, not even elected.

Late into the 1950s, he wanted to make a super-highway (one of <i>three</i>) that would basically cut through lower Manhattan (the other two would run through midtown, and Harlem), running east-west.

Well, we don't have those super-highways cutting Manhattan to pieces. Know why? <a href=http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/mtl/AttentionAmerica.html target=_blank>The people of the neighborhoods that would have been destroyed (parts of SoHo, Tribeca, and the Flatiron District) stood up to him, took his ass to court, and won</a>. The mayor finally conceded that Moses was basically poison, and fired him.

Long story made short, the so-called "little people" still have a voice-- you just have to make yourself heard.

P.S.-- Want to know what happens to "little people" who don't speak up? Ever been on the Cross-Bronx Expressway? How about the L.I.E.? He had his critics, to be sure, but no one really stood up and said, "this is bad for the people" before that point.



*If you ever have a chance to watch Rick Burns' documentary on the history of New York, sit down and watch it. Damn fascinating.

[CriticsLoveSnatch]

huh...fair enough...last i checked he was in the 65-70 range. well, maybe this country is waking up:bouncy: