Messing up our children properly.

[Hawt Baux]

Originally posted by Sloats
Mythology is the primary source of how cultures teach their children values and morals. A kid who fears God is less fucked up than a kid who fears nothing.

I'm Roman Catholic, everyone in my Family is Roman Catholic. I can verify with at least 7 of my Family members(including myself) that what you just said is completely false.

[Sloats]

Originally posted by Hawt Baux

Originally posted by Sloats
Mythology is the primary source of how cultures teach their children values and morals. A kid who fears God is less fucked up than a kid who fears nothing.

I'm Roman Catholic, everyone in my Family is Roman Catholic. I can verify with at least 7 of my Family members(including myself) that what you just said is completely false.

Catholics are taught not to fear God, only hell. Blame your Irish upbringing and not the Catholic Church..... Just like Sinead. Wants to blame the Pope that Ireland is so over populated and not the Irish people who breed like fucking Hispanics.

[BITENY]

Originally posted by GreasyItalianPrincess
i was forced to hebrew school. at 7 years old i demanded during the adam and eve story to know where the dinosaurs were. She looked like the fat bitch in the principals office in Ferris Bueller. \"errrrr....errrrrrrr.....errrrrr\".

I knew it was a crock of shit even then. Hewbrew school and my Bar Mitzvah was a joke ever after. I did it b/c it was expected.

Wow, kinda sounds like me, except for the dinosaur part.
I was forced into Hebrew School, 2 days a week, after reg. school. I didn't mind it actually when I was younger. But when I got Bat Mitzvahed- that was it for me. I was forced into going to Temple b/c my father spent all that money, that I should go there for a reason, yet he sat on his ass every Sat. morning watching tv. He was never taught to read Hebrew or any of that mumbo jumbo. As I got older, I finally had my choice of not going to temple and I chose to stay in & sleep. Fuck getting up @ 9:30am to be around phony people and a boring ass speech & prayers. I want my sleep.
And recently, since we just had Rosh Yahoma and Yom Kippur--- I wanted to avoid doing anything w/that. I went out Friday night, ate w/my crazy family Saturday night, went out & celebrated my friend's bday shortly after that & went to the Yankee game that Sunday. My father looked @ me funny for going but I didn't care. (Hypocrite.) I don't understand- we spend 1 night celebrating a new year, the friggin joos spend 2 1/2- 3 nights celebrating it. WTF. It's a new yr that doesn't even matter to me. 2004 matters to me, not this 56793938398 crap.
Then when Yom Kippur came up, I didn't eat for a few hrs only b/c I wanted to shut my parents up. I didn't wanna take off from work either due to the fact that I'm off next Tues- and my father gives me this shit of "I give up with you & the religion"....I shrugged my shoulders and walked away. So I took off. I wound up eating at around 330 that day- after I saw that my dad had a can of soup. When I went to the city to hang out w/my BF on Sunday, my father asked if I was coming home for dinner & I said no. He says to me "I'm not religious either, but it's just 2 holidays out of the year...."
which I don't care. It means nothing to me. A new yr that doesnt matter & starving myself for a day b/c the Joos did it way back in the day......so that means that I have to also?? Fuck that.
We were eating dinner & my mom asked if I had eaten anything at all that day & I told her I had a few slices of bread...she gave me a look.
What a bunch of morons my parents are.
Last thing I'm gonna say.......
One morning I was eating bacon egg & cheese on a roll...dad sees it, tells me that my mom wouldn't like it if I was eating bacon in the house......several mos later, my parents order chinese food---- they order spare ribs & wonton soup (which has pork in it.) I kept my mouth shut & laughed my ass off.
Hypocrites.


Ok, I'm done. I needed to get that out. :wow:

[Hawt Baux]

Originally posted by Sloats
Catholics are taught not to fear God, only hell. Blame your Irish upbringing and not the Catholic Church..... Just like Sinead. Wants to blame the Pope that Ireland is so over populated and not the Irish people who breed like fucking Hispanics.

When i spent the summers with my great Grandmother she would explain to me that there is no God and no Hell. Only good and evil and that humans as a race are in a constant struggle with the good and the evil inside themselves and in the world as a whole. Also that we are the only ones to condemn ourselves to damnnation.


My Grandmother on the other hand would make me sit outside(rain, day night, snow,etc.) at the mention of the words "hell", "damn" or saying "God" in a derogatory fashion.


Both these things affected me int he sense that i believe that there is a Hell but in my opinion it is a personal one and we struggle with it on a daily basis and we're the only ones who have the power to condemn ourselves to it. But i have enough respect for others beliefs not to slander God or the beliefs associated.


Oh well.

[header]

I was in Catholic school for the majority of my education and you pretty much learn to regurgitate what nuns want you to say without paying any mind to what it all means. Church is the same way and it's pointless. Most people just sit there and think about football later or things like that. Priests have for the most part forgotten their role and pretty much just stand up there and voice their opinions about current events and try to tie them into the gospel.

I didn't learn that all this was bullshit until I studied theology in college. There I learned how to read a bible properly, taking into account when where and by who wrote it. And thus anyone that runs around quoting scripture to fit into their own agenda is most likely an idiot.

If giving your kids a base of religion is important you need to teach them how to read the bible properly and that it is a book of stories and the stories were written for a reason.

If religion is not important and you just want to give your kids some values consider the scouts. Or if you are afraid of pedophiles find some comparible version of the scouts that is 'safer'

My kid is 2 and doesn't go to church, because trying to make him sit down and shut up for an hour and a half is ridiculous if he has no idea what he's doing there. I might take him later in his life but I haven't decided yet.

I'm going to try to get him to follow the family path and join the scouts but I'm not going to force him to stay involved if he doesn't want to.

Let's face it, he's going to end up on a clocktower with a sniper rifle playing god at age 30.

I'm doomed.

[JimmyBlueEyes]

It used to be, when I went to Catholic school(6 years actually) that being a cub/boy scout and an altar boy were the cool things to do. In some cases, being in the scouts was a LOT of fun. Not so when I moved out of the city. Their idea of camping was putting up a tent in the back yard. Catholic school was a weird experience. I was at one time deeply religious, the life of Christ Fascinated me. As I got older I saw a lot of the problems in the Catholic Church and disagreed with many of their teachings. I only go to church now when people die or get married. It's kinda funny watching members of my family, like my younger brother try to recite the prayers now. Believe in what you want. I pretty much believe there is a God and ghosts and angels and stuff. But I don't believe in it the way the Catholic Church says. As for Born again Christians, those people scare me about as much as the Jehovahs Witnesses. Knock, Knock FUCK OFF!!!!

[Toronto Hottie]

Originally posted by 60FeetUnderWater
Hottie - what is more important to you?

That your children embrace \"religion\" or...

that they understand and value \"spirituality\"?

I read nothing over a couple of lines. Fucking novellas. Except for angel's.

My goal is not to have them "embrace" anything 420. It's to give them knowledge.

I was given the knowledge of religion. They are going to wing it unless I figure out how to fix it.

They'll be smart, educated, taught proper values, hopefully be driven and ambitious etc etc. But as it is now, have little to no knowledge of god and faith.

[header]

Jehovahs Witnesses. Knock, Knock FUCK OFF!!!!

Two old black ladies walk up to my door I say, "Honey there's black people coming to our door" (incidentally the most unintentionally racist thing I've said in my life)

Turns out they were JW so I turned into the nodding buffoon just saying "mmhmm" My kid runs up behinds my starts screaming and trying to get outside. So they give me a pamphlet on 'protecting children from kiddy porn' and leave. I close the door and say, "even worse it was the jehovas witnesses."

Kiddy porn? who the fuck do they think I am?

They have yet to return.

[header]

I read nothing over a couple of lines. Fucking novellas.

Don't worry I said nothing of importance.

[Toronto Hottie]

Hey header, where's footer????? :lol:

Last time hove's came to my door, I told them I believed in Darwin's theory and slammed the door on their pamphelet giving asses.

I'll love my fucking neighbour when the prick keeps his cats on his own property.