fo' shizzle my nizzle

[GreasyItalianPrincess]

it's great when they took requests.

[Sloats]

Originally posted by IrishAlkey
I remember when blacks knew their place.

I remember when the Irish were afraid of the blacks taking their status in society.

[Black Lazerus]

Originally posted by Sloats

Originally posted by IrishAlkey
I remember when blacks knew their place.

I remember when the Irish were afraid of the blacks taking their status in society.

African-Americans

The relationship between the Irish in New York and African-Americans was definitely negative during the last half of the nineteenth century. It stemmed mostly from job competition and a common living environment, not from simple racial hatred. Although blacks and Irish were usually at odds in New York at this time, Peter Quinn makes a close comparison between them, stating that they were both “tough, violent, jail-prone miscreants who changed the nature of city life, making it more threatening and volatile, a place widely perceived to be as intrinsically hostile to the real American family values of work, thrift, and sobriety.”7Despite these seeming similarities, Irish and African-American conflict permeated New York City, perhaps because of these similarities. Even as early as the 1830s, new Irish immigrants in New York were competing with blacks for jobs. The Irish were often willing to work for the lowest amount, and would therefore displace any free blacks that had an opportunity to work for wages. 8 Since the competition was so stiff for jobs in New York during the mid-nineteenth century, the Civil War posed a great threat to Irish job stability.
One of the first signs of Irish prejudice towards African-Americans was the New York Draft Riots in 1863. The riots were in response to the National Conscription Act, which had been passed in early 1863. It was the first draft in American history. During the four days of riots, from July 13 until July 16, 1863, conscripted men, mostly Irish, fought against law enforcement officers and attacked blacks. Among the destruction caused during the riots was the burning of the Negro Orphan Asylum. Predictably, the Irish who participated in the Draft Riots were immigrant laborers who could not afford to pay for replacements soldiers. There were two reasons that the Irish targeted blacks during these riots. The more immediate reason was that “blacks had been used as strikebreakers in New York and were exempt from the draft.”9 The Irish in New York were already of the lowest social order, and if they were to leave to fight, African-American strikebreakers would certainly be used to take their old jobs. There might not be any jobs left if and when they returned from war. The other reason the Irish attacked blacks during these riots and resented them at this time was more general. The Irish saw “abolitionism as a nativist and anti-Catholic movement that represented a profound threat to their livelihoods.”10 It was more than blacks being used as strikebreakers. Millions of free blacks might make their way north to New York, and inevitably would be competing for the jobs the Irish held. Some typical jobs that the Irish and blacks fought over in New York were manual labor positions, hodcarriers, white-washers, waiters, coachmen, cooks, and servants. It seems obvious that the Irish were not willing to be displaced in New York as they had been in Ireland.
As the nineteenth century wore on and New York City became more crowded, the Irish and African-Americans ended up living in the same slums. New York’s 6th Ward, or the Five Points District, as it came to be called, was just north of City Hall in downtown Manhattan at the intersections of Orange, Anthony, and Cross Streets. As stated above, the Irish and African-American populations in New York were not friendly. Until 1850, the black and Irish populations in the 6th Ward were relatively equal, however, by 1870, blacks had left the 6th ward as the Irish population in New York boomed. In that year, approximately eleven thousand Irish lived in the 6th Ward, as opposed to just over two hundred African-Americans. African-Americans began moving north towards Harlem as the Irish immigrant population increased in the 6th Ward and the Irish began collecting political power through Tammany Hall. Overmatched, blacks were peacefully forced out of the 6th Ward, which ended the frequent Irish and African-American relations in New York City.
Unforeseen results of the mixed slums that the Irish and African-Americans lived in New York were some of the first mixed marriages between whites and blacks in the United States. Typically it was the Irish women who were part of interracial marriages, simply because there were more Irish women than Irish men in the city at in the nineteenth century.11 Although most Irish men showed disgust at these marriages, they became more common as time went on. Bayor and Meagher claim that these mixed marriages are an example of affectionate relations between the Irish and African-Americans. Aside from the Draft Riots, they go on, “day-to-day contact was as harmonious as could be in a tough, urban slum.”12

[Sloats]

And then the Italians came over.....

[JimmyBlueEyes]

Ickity Ackity Oop

[Black Lazerus]

fo' shizzle my nizzle

"'fo shizz-ul my nizz-ul'"

For sure, my nigga. Should only be used by a black person, to a black person - unless you want your ass kizzled. Variations acceptable for use by whitey include:

fo' shizzle my sizzle = For sure, my sister.
fo' shizzle my bizzle = For sure, my brother.
Yes sir, Suge sir. Right away sir. = Please Suge, don't kill me.

Whitey 1: Hey man, are you going to the club tonight?
Whitey 2: Fo' shizzle, my bizzle. Right after I watch the game on my televizzle.
Whitey 1: Sorry Suge sir, don't kill him.

[Sloats]

So, I should be say "Fo Shizzle, Yo Wizzle. Get you fucking Deco-Upped Honda Out of my fucking way."

[Black Lazerus]

god you are so white.

[GreasyItalianPrincess]

oh please...like you aren't

[Black Lazerus]

quiet you, just because I am well spoken dosen't diminsh the fact that I am Black.