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GonzoStyle
posted on 01-04-2002 @ 10:07 AM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

feel free to continue sending your people over to Ronfez.Net, where everyone is treated with respect.



When did Stingray get into BTS? Hey man don't even begin to say that the core membership on that board didn't come from here. Matt may be blinded by steve and your bullshit but we aren't. Look no further than the owner of the site Carter a banned member from here and wackbag chat. Dan, Jon, who helped you start that site. Just go on swaying people to RF.net and I can't blame you cause froy lets you, but don't come here with your arrogance and pompus attitude. Steve knows jack and shit about things like chat cause for one he never goes in there and for two he has climbed atop a soapbox so high he can barely see the ground.

Don't give me that shit that steve did this for us and as if WE owe HIM. Bullshit man, he built that site cause he wanted to. And forgive me if my heart doesn't bleed for him. "he makes enough to pay the server." Well you know what if it is so unprofitable why continue to work with it, and beyond that why constantly improve it? Sorry if it is hard for me to swallow and take his word on no good faith that he doesn't see a penny. Really hard to think that after 2 years of making nothing he is still doing it. And if he is doing it cause he cares so much that even if no money is coming in, then wouldn't it be smarter to listen to people who actually have a clue what they are talking about? The president has advisors and people who go out on the front lines and know what the dime is, steve would much rather not listen and go on word of mouth.

Just like he went on word of mouth of the most infamous cum guzzler of the boards. The man banned from oa.com no less than 40 times already. Steve took his word or became tired of listening, whatever the point what little traffic that chat had was enjoyed by people in there. Wether it be 10, 15, or 25. But by not having mods you just gave people like mavric and other problem makers free reign to go in and disrupt things. I am not personally asking nor do I want to be a mod in the chat. But get people who are indifferent to the boards both oa and rf and let them mod it, 3 or 4 people. But do not pretend to know even your site if you do not interact with its users.

Plus like I said before enough with the pity party, a web master is a stressful position but you chose it. Try walking in some of our shoes and see how you like it. A time schedule, getting up at 6am, working till the late hours 5 or 6 days a week for actually nothing pretty much. Try that fuckin route then come back to me. Try construction like sean then come back to him, try service like me dealing with close to 500 calls of bitching customers a day plus tons of work i can't even describe, try whatever the fuck opak does for a living which must be damn stressful, lol.

But bottom line look in the mirror before you toss your stone. Give the people what they want or they will go elsewhere and this is not just aimed towards you, it's a general statement.




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They Will Betray You In MY Name.

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This message was edited by GonzoStyle on 1-4-02 @ 10:10 AM
Sephiroth
posted on 01-04-2002 @ 10:32 AM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Dec. 00
quote:

In response to this message:
So long as you have at least 100 posts.

quote:

Jeff Sent me this Email:
Why are you even on our board if you're going to say something like that? I
was having it in my fucking house....i didnt want every g-d damn person
there...had to limit it somehow...

watch your fucking mouth when you say shit...



Okay, so let me get this straight. In order to "limit" your party, you sent out a mass email to the 15,829 registered members of Opieanthony.com? I love that logic Jeff. Hey, while you were at it, did you put up flyers in your neighborhood too? Keep calling "us" the elitists Jeff, if it makes you feel any better. And even though you said they had to have 100 posts, all ladies were invited regardless of post count, correct? Can we say "Double-Standard" Jeffy? Very good. Hey, if it makes you feel better, you can delete my account on RF.net, that should give you a chubby for 5 seconds. This is only the latest in a long line of fuck-ups you have done, and Im sure it wont be the last. Just please spare us all the mass email when your family decides to have a garage sale, ok?

Oh, and as for "watching my fucking mouth when I say shit", sorry Jeff, that isnt going to happen. You see, unlike your elitist shit board, Im allowed to speak freely here. Dont like what I have to say? Too fucking bad, deal with it. Just dont go deleteing my posts again, deal? Fuckwit...

L33T LIEK JEFFK MOTHERBITCHES. I fucking hate everyone of you motherfuckers, so leave me the fuck alone and DIE. Jesus Christ, you fucking mongoloids disgust me. You're all living proof of why Abortions should be mandatory in some cases. We should Enslave the retards and use them to build our Utopia. After that, we'll just put a bullet in their mis-shapen skulls. Or throw them in ovens, whichever is cheaper.

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This message was edited by Sephiroth on 1-4-02 @ 10:39 AM
FoundryMusicJeff
posted on 01-04-2002 @ 11:03 AM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jan. 01
quote:


And, I do agree with Sean, as to that questionable use of the mailing system for your own party. Posting it, fine. Using the mailing list for your personal use, irresponsible.





quote:


Okay, so let me get this straight. In order to "limit" your party, you sent out a mass email to the 15,829 registered members of Opieanthony.com?




If you had any clue, you would have noticed that mailing list was sent out to the mods only, not the entire message board. I was inviting you people. I figured if any of you didn't have any plans, you might be interested in spending New Year's at my house. But hey, I'm just a bipolar piece of dried up chum, what would I know?


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Lord Magus
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posted on 01-04-2002 @ 11:58 AM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
quote:

Maveric kept e-mailing Steve about the fights going in the chat room between the mods.



Ok.. where's my 20 bucks???

And ifMmavric got un-banned again because of this mess.. you can keep your Chat moderatorships, because they're obviously WORTHLESS anyway.. I mean..

I ban Mavric for spamming... he gets unbanned, we get yelled at..

I ban Mavric for instigating fights and disrupting chat.. he gets unbanned and MADE a moderator too...

I ban Mavric because I've allready banned him twice from chat for legitimate reasons and he was instigating again... All chat modships are removed..

I mean.. following that pattern maybe you should change the name from "Foundry chat" to "Mavric chat"




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"I'm gonna change my name to Pimp Daddy Payne!"
Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 01-04-2002 @ 12:24 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Feb. 01
Enough of this. For one, I am glad to see all the mods united in something, but not this. Steve & I have built a very good relationship between the two sites and as individuals. I am not going to sit here and watch it get torn down over something like this.

Jeff has my utmost appreciation for helping save this site, I have always credited him for that. And while I agree with some of the things you are saying, I disagree with others. But let it lie before this spills across 3 sites and we all suffer for it. Take this obvious rush of energy and focus it onto this site and make our changes and build it back up instead of wasting our time and efforts rehashing the same arguments & issues that won't do anybody any good.


I believe in the Faith... that can save me.
I believe in the hope and I pray...
That someday it may raise me... above these badlands
TheGooch
Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh?
posted on 01-04-2002 @ 12:44 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
Light 'em if you got 'em







Here's a tip that will save you alot of grief and time...

Don't believe in and depend on anyone but yourself.
TheGooch
Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh?
posted on 01-04-2002 @ 1:25 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
I had a long talk with Jeff, and I am appeased on some issues.

FACT 1 : all mods are gone. We didn't know that. It wasn't just us.

FACT 2 : Jeff did only email the mods and admin here, not entire site...also had assumed differently.

FACT 3 : Many things were said here out of anger, whether right or wrong. Bottomline, we need each other, no matter what we think.

I feel from Jeff a desire to bury hatchet and move on, and I agree on this front. If you have personal issues or questions, just ask him. Some have more issues with him than others, but let's agree to put somethings behind us so that we can continue to keep thing copacetic. I personally apologize for insinuating that Jeff had it out for us. And for assuming that he used site mail system to all members. I have discussed why I felt these things, and he has repsonded with his own issues. Bottomline, is we are all in same boat, no matter what we feel, and though we have differing opinions on some issues, we still remain on this boat...for better or worse, it is a simple fact.











Here's a tip that will save you alot of grief and time...

Don't believe in and depend on anyone but yourself.
Sean C0ld
posted on 01-04-2002 @ 2:58 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Aug. 00
You know what, if what I think of this lowly shit bag is that much of a problem, let me know, I will just pack up my toys and go.

Matt, I have respected your wishes, abiet a little late at times, but for the most part, when you ask me to take shit off the board, i do. But, I am sorry, I will not jump through a little hoop just to appease Bipolar's ego trip. This piece of runny dog shit has used this site to springboard Ronfez.net, and frankly, you nnever even gave it a thought otherwise. Sure I have my own gig, and sure I have OA members there, but 1) I am not in competion with you because my site(that I did my self so suck my dick webmaster Jeff) is a private one and I plan on remaining that way, as I told you I would and 2) I have never even fuckin alluded in anyway that people should post on my site because we will treat them better. Anyone, including mods, that were a part of STM are automaticly welcome.

You said 3 sites that this will wage on but you can make that 5. If I can not speak my mind about this douche bag here, in the infante privacy of BTS, then I will on my own little piece of the web pie. And don't forget OTL either, so that makes 5.

Jeff, plain and simple you scumbag, next time you have an issue with me and the way i do things, be true to yourself, which ever self you are that night, and do not sit and have a drink with me. Because from here on in, if you try that happy smiley shit with me again, i will be more inclined to slap a shot glass off your skull then have you be a fuckin phoney in front of me.

You might think that i am talking at you because I am better than you and you would be correct. If you need proof, look at it this way: I deal with my mistakes while you delete yours.

Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 01-04-2002 @ 3:15 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Feb. 01
Sean, I'm not telling you not to voice your opinion. We both know, you're not going to stop whether I ask you to or not. LOL.


I believe in the Faith... that can save me.
I believe in the hope and I pray...
That someday it may raise me... above these badlands
SLASH
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC
STRIKE 3
(I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)
posted on 01-04-2002 @ 3:50 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Aug. 00
I think we all can agree, even you Froy, that Jeff has done nothing 'technically' but keep this site afloat in it's most primitive state. You can feel indebted to him all you want, but the fact is, other than getting this board online/operational and updating the Cold Fusion Software and changing banner ads, Jeff has done nothing but keep this site from growing technically. He has focused all his energy into other projects... RF.net etc..

I have asked / made numerous suggestions to fix the simplest things to no avail.

FTL, I know, has done the same.

Others may have as well

I am talking 'technical' issues, not personality issues.

All of these requests don't even go as far as being declined, but rather they are ignored.

Some are so fucking simple to fix or alter/add that it is just a smack in the face to those of us who care enough to look into it and present it to the board administreators.

Jeff even promised 2 separate IP tools. One was a banner, and the other was an IP flagging tool. BOTH, on his part, were empty promises.

Froy, you are just as guilty as a 'manager, as Jeff is as 'the tech guy'.

If you want me to consolidate the suggestions/requests I will. If Jeff can't be bothered, and Vin is too busy to fix them himself, I am sure FTL and I can take a look around and fix them ourselves.

Or you can just ignore this post as you have so many other posts and threads that you can't be bothered with.

The ball is in your court, Mistar Admin!



AIM: SmarterChild

Write To Me Here

I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories that about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?



This message was edited by SLASH on 1-4-02 @ 3:54 PM

Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 01-04-2002 @ 3:54 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Feb. 01
Vin is busy on other projects at current time, and Jeff is free to pursue any ventures he likes. Slash, you can start a new thread with suggestions if you like, and sooner or later we'll work something out. They're won't be ignored, just put on a backburner. LOL


I believe in the Faith... that can save me.
I believe in the hope and I pray...
That someday it may raise me... above these badlands
SLASH
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC
STRIKE 3
(I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)
posted on 01-04-2002 @ 4:01 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Aug. 00
I totally understand that Vin is busy on other projects, and that Jeff is free to pursue any ventures that he likes.

That is why I am saying FTL and I can fix them. Fact is, the board has become too much work for some people to post on... 3 pages for the login... slow loading speed equal hang time and double+ posts due to epileptic fits on the mouse (because people feel that the initial click didn't go through... I mean after all, they were probably waiting 5 minutes for it to process!)

Thing is, Froy, it is a cause and effect situaution. If you cause people to feel like posting on a message board is more work than umm WORK, then the effect will be that they will not post. But wait, that seems to have been happening already, huh?

Bottom Line, you have to give action to get action.

You say they won't be ignored, and that the suggestions will just be put on the back burner? Well, take a look around, seems to me like posting has been put on a back burner. But I wouldn't expect these people to still be around 'sooner or later'.





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Write To Me Here

I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories that about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?



This message was edited by SLASH on 1-4-02 @ 4:13 PM

GonzoStyle
posted on 01-04-2002 @ 4:37 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 70
So what I just got from the last few posts is.

OA.com is not as important as 'other' projects. So is OA.com gonna go the way of the hellhole board? Cause from what I am getting is that "other" projects are more important well as you can see the boards gone for shit as of late, hell if no one cares anymore what's the fuckin point? To hold onto a memory? 2 hours without a post on the board at all today? That should tell you something.

So lets all just get in line and suck eachothers cocks. We have to praise brother joe, yet where would he be without the 30-50 people from THIS board who come to see him. How many "show listeners" off thoe board ever came to the bro joe gigs at bar 9? We have to be thankful for O&A yet without us where are they? We have to be thankful for Jeff well hey thanks man, but you didn't do it for nothing just look at RF.net and call it even. And thanks to Steve, yeah is that all the brown nosing we have to do? Steve can sit on his throne and look down at the "egomaniacal" OA.com mods without fuckin knowing us yet no one can say boo to him.

Well ok then I can see how things are going, one project didn't work, move onto the next is that how it is? Ideas to improve the site are gonna be put on the "back burner", that's great man. Hey the memories were damn worth it I'll tell ya that much. But just cause you raised your voice finally, I'm not tucking my tail between my legs. And go ahead and keep bashing the "ill fated" brooklyn party, yet I certainly do not remember all that many more people at the christmas party. It didn't cost a dime and I put myself out there cause I cared, free and clear yet keep on bashing it man it's easier to turn down an idea that come up with one.

Have fun I won't say another word though, trust me.




I'm Deep Inside Your Children.
They Will Betray You In MY Name.

Thanks Gooch for The Sig

She-Mail Me Here

SLASH
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC
STRIKE 3
(I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)
posted on 01-04-2002 @ 4:45 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Aug. 00
One last thing... I want to know if I can be a moderator on OTL.



AIM: SmarterChild

Write To Me Here

I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories that about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?



Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 01-04-2002 @ 7:14 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Feb. 01
Let's get this straight. Vin doesn't really give a half a shit about this site. He is up to his neck in other things for OTL.

You already know Jeff is going to ignore you. What would you like me to say? Until now, nobody has offered their coding expertise, nor have I been given much of an inkling that anyone had any, other than Slash figuring out how to post sales links in Afrika's status, and FTL explaining about blank space chewing bandwidth.

You have suggestions, you know you can do it, then we can talk.

For once can everyone around here stop bouncing from one extreme to the other. I'm sorry, but it's beginning to drive me crazy. Everyone is so quick to make things so dramatic and profound. There is way too much paranoia around here, it seems like everyone wants a conspiracy lately. If you want to discuss something, don't give me the
'Froy's giving up on this site for other projects', or 'this site is dead', etc., etc.

You want to talk about things with me, then drop me an IM, because I'm tired of people telling me what's my fault, what i'm thinking, what my motives are, and what i'm going to do next.


I believe in the Faith... that can save me.
I believe in the hope and I pray...
That someday it may raise me... above these badlands
SLASH
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC
STRIKE 3
(I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)
posted on 01-04-2002 @ 7:50 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Aug. 00
Froy, I will give you a proper responce later.

All I am going to say now is "BiT Tits" in the porno ads and the fact that the legal terms acceptance in the registration section for new membership sign-ups. Both of which you laughed off in IM's with me and said you didn't care. That's right, let me say it again, 'cause it bears repeating -- you said, "I don't care." So how about we cut the shit about 'drop me an IM and we can discuss it'. I told you it was an embrassment and asked you to let me in to the controls just to fix that (BiT Tits). Your reply ='ed "you wish."

If the terms of agreement is to long to fit into the provided space, I am sure that Buttmunch wouldn't mind re-wording it in the best way possible, and still keep it legal.



AIM: SmarterChild

Write To Me Here

I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories that about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?



This message was edited by SLASH on 1-4-02 @ 10:01 PM

FoundryMusicJeff
posted on 01-05-2002 @ 7:59 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jan. 01
The IP Tool was not an empty promise. I just had work that took priority over it, like OTL and other projects that PAY me. I had every intention of doing it. The code for this shit isn't just lying around. I have to write it from scratch, and maybe programming for a handful of unappreciative people isn't something that appeals to me right now. Maybe if you people weren't so fucking mean to your members, they wouldn't be signing up under multiple accounts and trying to hack the board. Think about that.

quote:


This piece of runny dog shit has used this site to springboard Ronfez.net,



Do you even read the posts people write, or do you just enjoy running your mouth and finding new and interesting ways to call people names? I didn't use this site at all to springboard RonFez.Net. I NEVER posted ANYTHING on oa.com to further ronfez.net. I invited the mods using the MODS AND ADMIN feature of the admin section, which is just sent to mods to my party.

Truth is, I've done NOTHING to stop this site from growing. Any of you who felt my contributions were inadequate could have stepped up and done something on your own....learn ASP and re-write it for better performance...find new software...learn Cold Fusion and see if you could possibly streamline it. But no, it's fuck Jeff for not doing it...i want it, i want it now, and that runny piece of dog shit better not smile around me when I drink with him. I did nothing but help.

Maveric could have DESTROYED this board, and he didn't. He did the right thing. You don't get show mentions anymore because you are hurtful and spiteful to the fans, that's the bottom line. They may treat people like shit on the air sometimes, but that's not how you treat your members. They are the ones that support your site day in and day out, and when you shit on them, they will give it back to you ten fold. Now there's people out there that know how to hack the board. Keep pissing people off, and you won't have to worry about the site going under because of lack of show mentions. They'll just take it offline for you. Grow up.

Chief Engineer of the Starship Foundry. (NCC 1841-A)

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Sean C0ld
posted on 01-05-2002 @ 8:56 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Aug. 00
Oh, look, shiney happy dipshit finally grew a set and posted a fuckin reply. Congrats, fuck face, I am honored that you found me worthy of your valuable time.

Time and time again, you have shown an incosistant attitude towards me and other so GET OFF THE FUCKIN HIGH HORSE! I like how you reply to nothing else but one line. If it is just a rumor that you promoted RF all the time, then i apologize. But, how can you basicly say we suck for being mean yet tell me that RF sucks for being to nice? What the fuck is wrong with you? Do you even have a clear cut thought process anymore?

You kjnow nothing of why I have trashed people so do yourself a fuckin favor and just get in the corner and shut the fuck up. Like I said earlier, if I am the reason for this site's demise you asshole, how come we didn't see a great boost in traffic while I was gone? Take your time, I know you need to to put a full reply together. I have heard you do nothing but throw jabs at this site since the day Matt asked me to call you and stroke your fragile ego so you wouldn't leave. You should have. In my mind, keeping you around a place where you quite frankly can't cut the mustard just made you look like more of an ass.

Want to tell me to grow up? sure, you have a point I fly off the handle at times, but, your glass house is showing some wear at this point, dick. I call you names because that is how I feel about you. If I had the time, i would do a run down of what i think of you, but quite frankly, you aren't worth the effort anymore. Keep playing yourself up in that warped mind of yours, but, take head and remember, people like you are a dime a dozen. In fact, I think your quality of work is for the shits. The Maveric situation was your fault you shmuck. You are the dim witted fuck who allowed that type of acess to be had, so go cry your river someplace else.

Take me to task again and I will tear you again. You're the ass fuck who said he wasn't going to do this anymore. Test my paitence again and we shall see how nasty I can really get, dick!



This message was edited by Sean C0ld on 1-5-02 @ 9:12 PM
FollowThisLogic
Nay. We are but men. ROCK.
The man with the plan.
posted on 01-05-2002 @ 9:22 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
Ugh, I've been quiet, but fucking hell, people.

Everybody bitching and fucking moaning. And three people who need mirrors.

I see Matt, Vin, and Jeff. All three, "too busy with OTL" to give two shits about OA.com...

You wonder why the users of the site don't care? Well why should they, if even the guys in charge don't care?

If you were working at a company where the CEO was running it into the ground, would you go out of your way to do an extra good job? Fuck no, you'd be searching the want-ads.

The mods are in an even worse condition, because we care more about the site than the average poster. But it seems that we don't amount to much more than 10 party balloons tied to three 50-pound weights, trying to keep them afloat in the OA.com lake.

Enough of the god damn "I'd like to see YOU do a better job" bullshit. I don't recall being offered the chance to do so. Programming is fucking programming, really. You need to know a few simple things. Basically it's all about how to get shit to do what you want it to. The language itself, commands and such, are just a matter of getting used to for a new language.

Has anyone asked us if we have any programming knowledge? Maybe given Slash or myself a copy of some code? See what we could do with it, tweak it to make it better?

It's called being fucking pro-active. People do that when they actually care about something. I've read time and time again in BTS, people trying to get shit done, and nothing ever coming of it. It's because all of that was ignored that I've stayed quiet for so long. But then I thought about it, might as well be pro-active.

It may not help, I may just be ignored like everyone before me, but at least I fucking tried. At least I showed that I give a crap about this site and what happens to it. Hell, maybe if I'm given the chance to test my programming skills (and yes, I DO have them), I could do some good. Maybe if I get stuck, I could go out and buy the large "Using Cold Fusion 5" book that I'm sure populates Jeff's shelf.

Everyone's begging for a change. It's gotta start from the top. Currently the top is too busy with other things. And we all see what the result is.... the users found other shit to do as well.

Click here if you're bored enough to email me.Everyone else has a scrolling marquee in their sigs. I was beginning to feel left out.
"Miracles and lucky charms made the girl of my dreams the girl in my arms." - Dr. Frank
Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 01-05-2002 @ 10:55 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Feb. 01
This thread is going in two completely separate directions. I am going to ignore the Jeff shit and focus on what's actually important for the future here.

I put up a changes thread, nobody spoke up and said, hey, 'I have some programming knowledge, let's try this.' If you know what you are doing and have practical plans that we can put into use, fine, I'm all ears. I have no knowledge of anyone's programming skills, other than Slash coming to me about a spelling error and Kid's status link. And based just on that you want access to all the code for the board? I'm sorry, but to me that sounded a bit unrealistic, and that isn't meant as an insult.

Let's get all of this on the table. You say I don't care, that I have other things on my mind, well you know what I have a 100 things on my mind. Some important, some not so.

I love this site, but to say that it requires 100% of my undivided attention is unfair. Just because I own the site does not mean I cannot pursue other ventures, other ventures that will have a much bigger bearing on my future.

Does Vin care about this site? Nope. Never really has, never will.

Do I care about this site? Yes. It's my life.

So instead of questioning me about my loyalty to the site and my willingness to make changes, cut me a little bit of slack, because just like each of you, I love this place unquestioningly, and I can damn well bet you that in the end this site means a lot more to me than it does to anyone else. In the end, I have gotten more headaches and heartaches because of this place, and for very little reward. You can blame me for all the problems here if you want to, but we all know that isn't exactly fair, and it still won't solve anything.

So say what you want to, and let's either make the changes that need to me made and be productive, or let's continue to throw negative energy at each other and accomplish nothing.


I believe in the Faith... that can save me.
I believe in the hope and I pray...
That someday it may raise me... above these badlands
SLASH
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC
STRIKE 3
(I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)
posted on 01-05-2002 @ 11:52 PM      
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Registered: Aug. 00
quote:

Maveric could have DESTROYED this board, and he didn't.


OK. silly Admin, RF.net is full of oa.com rejects. People who were ostracized by all of us meanies, INCLUDING FROY.

Just Jon (RF.net mod) - Froy as well as us have made fun of Just Jon over being fired as a mod. On top of that Froy has been brutal about the "stock options" and the fact that he fired Jon from 2 non-paying jobs. Antagonistic? Hell Yeah. But, what's worse is your stupid Web Admin Policy to use the same syntax to enter Admin controls on BOTH sites! Like Jon wouldn't check that out, the bitter fuck that he is. He already kept quiet after he was demodded that he still had Mod powers. On top of that, you were an idiot to leave the "Delete -1 Topic" without password protection. Mavric did not tell us for our benefit that an "ex-mod" emailed him with the info. First off, it was undoubtedly Just Jon trying to get Mavric to do his dirty work. Plus the fact that Mavric was probably afraid that his IP would have been recorded if he started deleting the board. How does he know whether or not the board has Admin/Moderator logs or not? So he probably figured he would try and get into our good graces by telling us about the security flaw as IF he was being a stand-up guy. In conclusion, you fucked up twice -- Same syntax / Non-password protected -1 topic deleter. So just sit back and shut the fuck up about your precious Mavric. I have to wonder what it is that Mavric does for you that you are such a supporter of him.

quote:

Any of you who felt my contributions were inadequate could have stepped up and done something on your own...


Do you even read what we post here? I said...

quote:

I told you (meaning Froy) it was an embrassment and asked you(Froy) to let me in to the controls just to fix that (BiT Tits). Your reply ='ed "you wish."


What was I supposed to do, Hack the board to get into the controls to fix it?

---------------------------------------

Ok, some of the stuff, not related to you Jeff, has been resolved.

Matt, I took the opportunity to take this thread in another direction while everyone's attention was had. I realized that Vin and Jeff couldn't care less, so I went for the prospect of getting someone else who cares enough to fix a few things that the board would be much better off for. No more, no less... Loud and nasty, that's the only way it sticks, Froy. LMAO




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I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories that about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?



This message was edited by SLASH on 1-6-02 @ 12:05 AM

FollowThisLogic
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posted on 01-05-2002 @ 11:57 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
Well, I do apologize, Froy, for questioning YOUR loyalty to the site, and only you... it was over the top, and though we personally spoke about it, I wouldn't feel right without the apology for all to see.

But, though questioning your loyalty may have been a shitty way to do it, I'm glad I struck a nerve, because things can only move forward from now on.

Oh, and Jeff, you truly live up to your S.T.O.N.E.R. title.... if you think being nice will help OA.com, pass me the bowl, cause you've got good shit. I don't really ever remember seeing you around OA.com before the switchover to the current board. Had you been here you might realize that the board was THRIVING, and was FUCKING RUTHLESS.... the board right now is TOO nice compared to the way it was....

No, OA.com is dead because we are no longer plugged on the show, plain and simple. There used to be mods in the studio from time to time, site mentions all over the place.... gee, kinda like RonFez gets now. Guaran-FUCKING-TEE that if Ron and Fez were to stop mentioning RF.net, they'd die out, as badly or worse.

Click here if you're bored enough to email me.Everyone else has a scrolling marquee in their sigs. I was beginning to feel left out.
"Miracles and lucky charms made the girl of my dreams the girl in my arms." - Dr. Frank
virgingrrl
and i am apologizing now for the spelling errors, its 34 am and im drunk, so no time for spell check! Gotcha, SLASH i'll mmmm momo all i want! and you cant stop me!
posted on 01-06-2002 @ 12:29 AM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
ok, i have read all of this, and have nothing to say at the moment, except i have one question, what the eff is this OTL you all speak of? is it something i should know about? if not everyone point and laugh at me and carry on with your bickering...how i love being left in the dark...

...You look like a perfect fit
for a grrl in need of a tourniquet
But can you save me
Come on and save me
If you could save me
From the ranks
of the freaks
who suspect
they could never love anyone...

Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 01-06-2002 @ 12:41 AM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
OTL is a new project that has been in the works for quite some time. I have been trying to keep it quiet & underwraps as much as possible in the hope of launching with a surprise debut.


I believe in the Faith... that can save me.
I believe in the hope and I pray...
That someday it may raise me... above these badlands
virgingrrl
and i am apologizing now for the spelling errors, its 34 am and im drunk, so no time for spell check! Gotcha, SLASH i'll mmmm momo all i want! and you cant stop me!
posted on 01-06-2002 @ 12:46 AM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
thank you, carry on...

...You look like a perfect fit
for a grrl in need of a tourniquet
But can you save me
Come on and save me
If you could save me
From the ranks
of the freaks
who suspect
they could never love anyone...



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