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Posted By | Discussion Topic: Whoa I Didn't See This Coming | ||||
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adolescentmasturbator | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 2:54 AM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: Resident Board Socialist Email me here IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought into the International | ||||
WoRMFACE | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 3:31 AM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | "Stop the arms race, not the human race." -- Civil fuckin D! | ||||
adolescentmasturbator | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 3:39 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | The thing is I knew this was going to happen. Just not this soon. Resident Board Socialist Email me here IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought into the International | ||||
IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 3:40 PM | ||||
O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | They rushed this sequel into production like Son of Kong. I mean God, we all said it was going to happen in the "Star Wars works" thread but we expected it to be like a year or so, not less than a month. Cold War 2 coming soon to a country near you. The narrator in Fight Club is the man we will be, Patrick Bateman in American Psycho is the man we want to be Eliza Dushku- Hotter Than Britney | ||||
Doc Smith I Love Anthony Zinni | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 3:43 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | You're forgetting one thing This missile defense system is not meant to stop a full-scale launch by Russia. If Russia hit The Button to destroy the world, this type of missle defense system wouldn't work. That is too many targets launched at the same time, we're talking hundreds of ICBMs. This type of missle defense system is meant to stop the attack of a "rouge launch" against the US. The Missle Defense System will (theoretically) be able to eliminate the threat of a lesser country (read: not Russia or China) buying a long range nuclear weapon or of a terrorist/dictator taking control of one missle silo like in the movie Crimson Tide. If Russia launched a full-scale nuclear assault, be happy you live where you do. We'd all get killed immediatley when they go after New York/Philly/Boston/DC instead of having to live in the aftermath like the poor saps in the Midwest. It wouldn't matter what the delivery system was like, no missle defense we have or will have in the near future will stop it Hence, I don't worry about it. It's not something I can do squat about and thus, there is no need for me to get bent over it I can levitate birds. No one cares. | ||||
hornygoatweed23 I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 3:46 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: Anyone up for a good game of Missile Command? Classes for Enhancing your Board Experience and Stamina are now in Session! Email me here or AIM me at Organic999 to enroll. | ||||
Sluggo667 SLASH's New Buddy, but shhh... I am not allowed to tell anyone. | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 3:56 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Apr. 01 | Yeah...It's scary...But, Cold War = More gooder economy. Sluggo667...Neighbor of the beast... | ||||
adolescentmasturbator | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 3:57 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Don't you think that those "rogue" states will eventually get the technology or buy the weapons to launch a single missile that would bypass the "Star Wars" missile defense? quote: Oh yeah I love the permanent war economy. Resident Board Socialist Email me here IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought into the International | ||||
IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 3:57 PM | ||||
O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:No it doesn't. It means over spending, useless purchases, over paranoia, innocents persecuted, a country in turmoil. The narrator in Fight Club is the man we will be, Patrick Bateman in American Psycho is the man we want to be Eliza Dushku- Hotter Than Britney | ||||
Sluggo667 SLASH's New Buddy, but shhh... I am not allowed to tell anyone. | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 4:06 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Apr. 01 | I knew I'd piss some one off with that comment! Sluggo667...Neighbor of the beast... | ||||
Doc Smith I Love Anthony Zinni | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 4:37 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:Do you have the slightest idea how insanely difficult it is to launch a long-range nuclear weapon? I don't mean to sound coarse here, but you seem to be intimidated by the media quite a bit. Let me give you a little crash course on ICBM. First, the payload...the warhead (insert dramatic music here). These things are very hard and very expensive to build. It's not easy to get the raw materials for one without everyone knowing exactly what you are doing. To make one strong enough to do a lot of damage takes serious technology. You have to have a precision instrument machine that can handle the stresses of launch into space. Timing of the detonation is critical. The payload will be going well over the speed of sound as it re-enters the atmosphere, and you have to make sure it detonates when it is a set distance above the ground. You know what is an order of magnitude more complicated than the bomb itself, the delivery system. It is very fucking hard to launch something into space and have it re-enter so it can land where you want it to. Even the best Russian navigation and guidance systems can only make the payload land in a 50 mile radius. That is what the US got in trouble for selling to China, not secrets on how to build a bomb, secrets on how to get it where you want to go. So now, after you do all that, and you do it without having the US intellignece know about it, you're going to make it stealth...HOW??? The only way to get something from that far away (read: over the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean to us) is on what is known as a ballistic trajectory. That is a very high arcing path that takes you into space. That is the only way to get something from one side of the world to another, you can't do it in the atmosphere. To do that takes a lot of energy, you're vehicle has to reach about 9 km/sec. You know how much force you need to get a 5000 pound warhead and guidance system going that fast...a shitload. The only thing capable of doing that is a chemical rocket. You can detect a chemical rocket launch very easily using satelites...so there is no way it could be launched without our knowledge. So now you have to know where it will be to intercept it. To do this, you need to know where it is, it's speed, and it's trajectory. Then you can calaculate where it is going to go. It is highly difficult to change the direction of a rocket after it has lifted off, it takes a lot of fuel and a bunch of time, so you can have a pretty good idea of where it will be. Then you need something that can identify the warhead. That is what radar is for. I know you think you can avoid radar by using stealth technology, but those are some of the most highly guarded secrets in the world AND it doesn't really work that well. The Stealth Bomber is stealth because of it's shape and it's engines. It has a caoting on its surface that can absorb some microwaves (radar) but if you blast it with enough, and use a bunch of frequencies, you can see it. So, in conclusion...stop worrying. I know you don't trust our government because you see it as this entity seperate from you that is trying to control you for its own means. Actually, our government is there to help, and it is OUR government, it belongs to the people. Just be happy you live in a country where you can feel safe from agressors and are free to speak your mind I can levitate birds. No one cares. | ||||
AFDude | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 4:46 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Well said, Doc. It's always good to see someone who actually knows what they're talking about reply to a subject. Any potential adoptees can go here:AFDude@opieanthony.com One adoptee currently in "AFD's Newbie Academy" Currently, Duvious is in training... Thanks to Maynard for the Sig help. | ||||
adolescentmasturbator | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 4:46 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | First off rogue states wouldn't even try to send an assault on the US. Even if it did attacked it would get destroyed six ways to sunday minutes after the country was destroyed. So feasibly it would not really work in their favor. What the missile defense program is doing is kickstarting the cold war again. Oh and the government is an entity trying to control us. It's happening little by little but in the end you won't even see it happening. Resident Board Socialist Email me here IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought into the International | ||||
Filzy Stand up straight Stomach in Shoulders back SOUND OFF!!! | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 4:51 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | Well... Now things are gonna get a wee bit interesting! However, I wouldn't be too woried... as far as I know, Russia is still rebuilding their economy. Either way, K.Y.A.G. folks if it does happen. I'm not dead yet, sorry to roon your hopes! Two, TWO sucessful graduates: whichwaymediumorrare AND Short Hills Mall | ||||
squidink | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 5:32 PM | ||||
Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | Think about, it might not be that bad(nuclear war i mean). We wouldn't need flashlights anymore, we could all glow in the dark. | ||||
The Painter 1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 6:49 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | Are you all forgetting that Reagan wanted to share SDI with the Russians. When you share technology, how does that promote the cold war? | ||||
adolescentmasturbator | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 7:11 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Reagan was bluffing on the whole SDI thing anyway. And I highly doubt Bush will share the technology. Resident Board Socialist Email me here IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought into the International | ||||
The Painter 1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 7:19 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:Damn good bluff. They folded. Everyone says this Bush is nothing more, than a continuation of the Reagan years, so why wouldn't he share it? | ||||
adolescentmasturbator | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 7:24 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | That wholet hing about SDI causing the Soviet Union to fall is not really true. He won't share it because it's obvious that this is for Military purposes of the US only. Reagan said he would share something that was non-existent and Bush won't share it even if it does work which is highly unlikely. Resident Board Socialist Email me here IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought into the International | ||||
The Painter 1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 7:31 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | Now you're just making shit up. SDI is a shield. It's to protect against accidental launch of ICB's, not a full scale attack. There's no defense from a full scale attack. Why wouldn't defense from accidental attack be shared? It could stop the Doomsday machine, ala Dr. Strangelove. | ||||
Doc Smith I Love Anthony Zinni | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 7:34 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | Dude...this whole X-Files / Randy Weaver / Mitilia schtick is kind of old You really think that the US government is out to get us. You really think that you are that important that the government YOUR government, is trying to control you? Question, have you ever served in the military? I have to assume not because you really take all this for granted. The US is not trying to re-start the cold war so it can achieve global domination or mutual destruction. No one wants that. The government is not this stange esoteric entity which is trying to manipulate everything. It is people, just like you and I. And all everyone really wants is so that their kids can grow up safe and happy and fat. I can levitate birds. No one cares. | ||||
adolescentmasturbator | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 7:42 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Honestly do you think there aren't any military honchos that want to possibly use this in an offensive way? This has happened with almost every sort of military action ever. I'm not saying everyone in the government wants this but it could be very well used that way. Doc, you would be surprised the amount of evidence of the US interfering in other countries affairs for its own gain. The government watches, harasses, and sometimes kills its own citizens(either directly or indirectly). I know first hand how the government has destroyed countries for its own economic and political gain. Resident Board Socialist Email me here IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought into the International | ||||
Graffix Rulz | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 8:26 PM | ||||
Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00 | i have nothing good to say but now i have a headache after reading all that info good stuff just so damn long lol "My girlfreinds mom still hasent been born!" | ||||
Doc Smith I Love Anthony Zinni | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 10:40 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:No, not quite The purpose of the US government is to help the people do what they can not do themselves. Let's say I want to build a road to my house. That's a big job, too big for me to do by myself, so I ask some of my neighbors to help me. I enter into what is known as a "social contract" with them. It's where we all work together to help out. That is what the government does, it makes us work together to do things, even if it not what one person may want, because it is best for the people. Other than that, the most important job of this government is to keep America soverign (translation: to keep us from speaking German right now). There will be no American people if the country is taken over, so the government must try to protect us from outside aggressors. It was thought that Communism was the greatest threat to the soverignty of this nation, hence the "witch trials" of the 50's and the like. One thing the government did was try to keep Communistic regiems from taking hold in other parts of the world. It was thought that to stabalize the regions, totalitarian leaders should be endorsed by the American government, though arms sales and other aid, to keep a Communistic government out. While I do not agree with this strategy, nor does the modern government, this was done in the best interests of the American people, not to make the Amercian government more money. This is not a facist state. The people do NOT exist for the greater glory of the state. The state exists to service the people. Try driving anywhere without the government...oh wait, there would be no roads. Try going to a state college..oh, those wouldn't be around either, only the rich would still be able to go to school. How about you lose your home then you get sick...need medicine...would you accept help from this horrible government that you thinkonly serves to better itself? It's made of people, and people make mistakes, like allowing a dicatator to come into power over a Communist regime, or when a plane is accidentally shot down by friendly fire. Maybe if you were happy for all that you have and for the ability ot live in the greatest country in all the world you'd be a little less crass about it. But what the hell do I know I can levitate birds. No one cares. | ||||
adolescentmasturbator | posted on 07-30-2001 @ 11:14 PM | ||||
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Doc, How would you know. I am from Iran. Now back way back in 1953 there was a very popular Prime Minister named Mosadegh. Eventually the Shahlost all power there and Mosadegh nationalized the oil industry along with many other reforms because western nations were taking advantage of the oil supply. So guess what happens America comes and has a little coup. Over the years the government for its own strategic and economic gain eliminated all opposition to the Shah so by the time of the 1979 revolution the only oppostion was Islamic Extremists. Now my country suffers under harsh rule because of US "interests". This isn't the only time this has happened. It has happened repeatedly. The US uses the mass media for its own purposes. Example when a polish priest was murdered in the 80s by polish police they called it atrocious and gave a lot of media coverage. The same thing happens on a greater level except in El Salvador and Guatemala and nothing is said. Wonder why? Because governmental interests were at stake. America oversteps its soveirgn bounds and intrudes other countries for its gain. This fact is indisputable. For Cambodia to Iran to Central America it has happened. And it will continue to happen until the American people wake up and demand that this pattern is changed. These aren't mistakes. They are systematic and cold. It has happened so many times one cannot remember all of them. Maybe this is why I may seem crass to you about this. But I can't just stand by and be silent about injustice carried out by the so-called most free country in the world. Resident Board Socialist Email me here IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought into the International | ||||
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