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darthziggy
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posted on 04-15-2002 @ 4:24 PM      
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quote:

New York Rangers fire coach Ron Low
By URSULA REEL
AP Hockey Writer
April 15, 2002


NEW YORK (AP) -- The New York Rangers' NHL-high payroll no longer includes coach Ron Low.

The Rangers fired Low on Monday after two losing seasons and zero postseason appearances despite base salaries totaling about $70 million in 2001-02.

The team went 36-38-4-3 this season and finished 11th in the Eastern Conference. It was the fifth straight year New York failed to make the playoffs.

``I don't think it's just the coach's responsibility in a situation like this. We all share equally in this,'' Rangers president and general manager Glen Sather said. ``But in every situation, someone ends up taking the blame and it's generally the coach. It's unfortunate, but it's the way it has to be.''

Sather would not say what, specifically, Low did wrong.

``I'm not going to get into anything negative,'' the GM said. ``Ron is a hard-working guy.''

Sather is holding a position in the organization for Low in case he's not hired by another team before next season.

``There's a job for him if he's looking for one,'' he said.

The Rangers led the conference standings in early December and were atop the Atlantic Division as late as Jan. 5. But the team went 3-11-1 from Dec. 31-Feb. 6, sinking its season.

The roster featured seven players who were at the Salt Lake City Olympics, including stars such as goaltender Mike Richter, defenseman Brian Leetch and forward Eric Lindros.

Sather added high-scoring forward Pavel Bure at the trading deadline, but the Rangers still fell short of the playoffs despite his late flurry of goals.

Low's record in New York was 69-81-9-4. He missed one game this season to attend the funeral of his brother, who died of cancer.

In seven NHL seasons, including five with the Edmonton Oilers, Low is 208-243-49-4.

``We had to do something,'' Sather said. ``We wanted to go into next year with a fresh start and fresh ideas. That's what we're doing.''

Ken Hitchcock, who coached the Dallas Stars to the 1999 Stanley Cup title, is a candidate to replace Low, Sather said. The Stars fired Hitchcock in January and didn't qualify for the playoffs.

``I've spoken to Dallas and I've received permission'' to talk to Hitchcock, Sather said.

Asked what he likes about Hitchcock, Sather said: ``Just his history.''

Rangers captain Mark Messier has said he's not interested in coaching the team.

Low, a former NHL goaltender, was liked by his players but was sometimes perceived to be under pressure to cater to Sather's wishes. On Sunday, Sather strongly denied reports he gave advice during games to Low via a walkie-talkie.

When the Rangers were eliminated from playoff contention, Low said he thought the Rangers had played hard for him. He blamed the team's problems on injuries to Lindros and Messier and poor special teams play.



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posted on 04-15-2002 @ 4:25 PM      
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There is a God!!! Ken Hitcock is what this team needs! I can't wait for next season already :)




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1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year


2. Hate the Braves with a passion


3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year


4. Mets win World Series!!!

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posted on 04-15-2002 @ 4:30 PM      
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Hitchcock would be a good choice, but if I were GM, I would ask the Devils for permission to talk to Larry Robinson. No matter what you think about him, since he was a coach of the Devils, he knows his hockey and he knows defense, which is something the Rangers sorely need



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darthziggy
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posted on 04-15-2002 @ 4:36 PM      
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If Robinson is to work defensively, first he needs a defense. Leetch and Berard and Poti are a good foundation to start with however, so it might be a good choice. Might be interesting to see how Leetch and Berard react to switching their styles though - both are very offensive minded.


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PeterDragon
posted on 04-15-2002 @ 4:48 PM      
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for some reason, this was missing from your quote (but was in the ESPN report):
quote:

When asked about former Sabres coach Ted Nolan as a possible candidate, Sather said: "Would I consider Teddy Nolan? Sure."



also, on another page, this was mentioned
quote:

Sather also identified assistant coach Walt Kyle, Hartford Wolf Pack coach John Paddock and former Sabres coach Ted Nolan as potential candidates.


sportsnet.ca also mentions Pat Burns

Technically Low wasn't fired, just had his contract not renewed, but at least Sather didn't wait.

Robinson's history has been much better as an assistant coach than as head coach - sometimes the requirements of being a HC prevent you from doing things you can do as an assistant.

I wouldn't be upset if Paddock got a shot; he has been doing the job at Hartford.






This message was edited by PeterDragon on 4-15-02 @ 5:01 PM
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posted on 04-15-2002 @ 4:58 PM      
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Robinson won a cup not a long while ago. I'd definetley consider him. Right now though, Hitchcock is the best candidate IMO. His team was so dominant, and besdies this year they have always been a cup contender. We need that kind of consistency and playoff experience. He also has Olympic experience and a couple All-Star games if that counts for anything :)




2002 Crack Committee Objectives:


1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year


2. Hate the Braves with a passion


3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year


4. Mets win World Series!!!

PeterDragon
posted on 04-15-2002 @ 5:11 PM      
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this is on cnnsi.com:
quote:

SI's Michael Farber
People are talking up Ken Hitchcock and Ken Burns, but the guy to look is Herb Brooks.

Brooks made it clear when he took the Pittsburgh job that he wanted it only temporarily, but going back to New York at this stage of his life would provide a nice nest egg and get him out of the scouting game, which is even heavier on travel than coaching.

Plus, he’d take over a pretty good team. Brooks is an offensive coach who has shown a strong attention to detail and he would be a nice mix philosophically with Rangers general manager Glen Sather.

Hitchcock is probably the best coach not working right now and it showedthat when he was at Kamloops he could coach powerhouse offensive team, butthe defensive scheme he used in Dallas -- and his sometimes testy relationshipwith players -- wouldn’t play well in Manhattan.

Burns deserves to be working. Indeed, earlier in the season he was one ortwo games form taking over in Carolina. But the longer he’s out of the league, the further he seems to recede in the minds of general managers.

Right now, Brooks would be considered the front-runner, although the search is just starting.



Brooks - been there, done that.

Defensive schemes are exactly what this team needs, and someone who can get Kloucek (and maybe Fedor Tutin) - good young physical defensemen -some playing time.

here is Stan Fischler's take Top 10 candidates to replace Low

Bryan Trottier?

Tutin, by the way, is a 18+ yr old playing juniors- this is the way he is decribed by ranger scouts - "Fedor is a player who is poised with the puck and see the ice very well. He is solid like a rock defensively and never gets beat one-on-one. He concentrates on playing a defensive role and is excellent killing penalties."
Just what team needs.



This message was edited by PeterDragon on 4-15-02 @ 5:29 PM
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posted on 04-15-2002 @ 5:50 PM      
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I totally forgot about Pat Burns, I think he wouldn't be a bad coach. Also Joel Quenville has LOTS of playoff experience. Herb Brooks is kind of a crappy coach IMO. He did help the Pens lots but I don't think he would last long in New York.




2002 Crack Committee Objectives:


1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year


2. Hate the Braves with a passion


3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year


4. Mets win World Series!!!

Francine Banger
posted on 04-15-2002 @ 6:25 PM      
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THANK GOD!!!!

I really dont care who takes over, he cant be much worse than Low.

I feel it will go to Hitchcock. Id rather see Ted Nolan but I would seriously doubt that Sather is going to hire somebody he cant control and who will be eyeing his job.

I think Id rather have Burns though than Hitchcock.

Heres my list in order of guys I want.

1. Ted Nolan
2. Larry Robinson
3. John Paddock
4. Pat Burns
5. Ken Hitchcock

Unfortunately I dont see either #1 or #2 happening. But any of those 5 will be much better than Low. Id put my money on Hitchcock getting the job.

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Tussle King
posted on 04-15-2002 @ 6:34 PM      
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A lot of people blame Low. Let's face some facts - he isn't the one going out playing every night. It's the players who have to get the job done - and they didn't. But everyone saw this coming. Next person they have to get rid of is Nedved.

Cluster F
posted on 04-15-2002 @ 6:55 PM      
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well, i cant say that im surprised. But i can say that i very fucking happy!!! Thank God he is gone. He is miserable. Anyway, i agree in saying that i want Hitchcock as the coach. Much better than Low is anyway.

2002 Crack Committee Objectives:
1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year
2. Hate the Braves with a passion
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
4. Mets win World Series


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darthziggy
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posted on 04-15-2002 @ 9:07 PM      
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The reason that quote wasn't in my article was because I got the AP version from Yahoo, not the ESPN release.


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posted on 04-15-2002 @ 9:50 PM      
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Eh, I was bored...



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posted on 04-15-2002 @ 11:21 PM      
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The defence is really what we need. the offensive lines of Lindros,Rucinsky,Bure and Fleury,McCarthy,Malakov are just plain great. The defensivemen dont ned to be changed, its just that they need to start from sctatch. there is too much independance on the team if you notice. Different styles are good, but each player has to learn the other's style. All season, our line up has been constantly changing, and thats another huge drawback.



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IslesBaby
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posted on 04-16-2002 @ 12:06 AM      
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No Comment :cool:



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posted on 04-16-2002 @ 12:08 AM      
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quote:

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Another riveting, interesting, relevant, and thought out post by Isles Baby.



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posted on 04-16-2002 @ 12:13 AM      
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oh did you say something? i wasn't paying attention..



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posted on 04-16-2002 @ 12:29 AM      
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quote:

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Wow, talk about a lazy post whore...

quote:

Another riveting, interesting, relevant, and thought out post by Isles Baby.



quote:

oh did you say something? i wasn't paying attention..



Ugh. Save the arguements... its going to be so lop sided its not even funny. :(

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posted on 04-16-2002 @ 12:34 AM      
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Mike Keenen....if they have to fire Sather to bring him in im all for it. Sather is overrated its easy to win when you have gretzky and Messier in their prime. Keenen did well in Boston and got fired only bec they changed G.M's like in vancouver. In Florida he came in way to late to turn the season around. He doesnt get along well with the higher ups but he wins and thats what counts. I know it probably wont happen bec of too many logistics. They need to find someone who has rings, is defensive minded and preferably has a passion for the rangers.


darthziggy
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posted on 04-16-2002 @ 1:05 AM      
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quote:

Total Posts: 259

Gee, she doesn't seem like a post-whore to me. Why don't you just leave the girl alone, since all she was doing was stating her opinion (or lack thereof) on the Ron Low situation. Calm down and stop being so quick to bash her.


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IslesBaby
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posted on 04-16-2002 @ 1:09 AM      
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Some People just don't get it ziggy :-P



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posted on 04-16-2002 @ 2:50 AM      
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quote:

Some People just don't get it ziggy



Admitting it is the first step.

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posted on 04-16-2002 @ 8:22 AM      
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The coach I want and yes he is still a player but he should retire and become coach is Mark Messier.

I think he is too old to contribute much on the ice anymore but his leadership would help the rangers and if the rangers would play for anyone it would be for Messier.

I swear it was this big
Tussle King
posted on 04-16-2002 @ 8:54 AM      
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Have I mentioned - GO ISLES!!! Yes, I am an Islander fan. :-D

As for the Rangers, they need a big hitter on D. Someone like Witt from Washington or Hatcher from Dallas. Someone who will make people pay for coming into the Rangers zone. Forwards were not scared to come into the Rangers end because they knew they were not gonna get hit. If they know what they are doing, they will try to get a big defenseman. Offense isn't a problem.

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PeterDragon
posted on 04-16-2002 @ 9:30 AM      
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quote:


A lot of people blame Low. Let's face some facts - he isn't the one going out playing every night. It's the players who have to get the job done


That's the coach's job - motivate players, and install system to get most out of them. Low may have been a good guy, but that doesn't get it done.

Keenan - may be good coach, but I'm still pissed at the Riley act he pulled, and he may have been one to send Amonte away.

Whoever comes in better do something about the god damn penalty killing and defense in general. And Sather better wake up and stop drooling over these offensive defensemen. I've said it before, Thomas Kloucek needs more ice time. They complained about some of his mistakes, but what did they accomplish by sitting him? He's young, he hits, and he is already on the team. Berard was an unnecessary and failed experiment, especially with acquisition of Poti.

The only question with Hitchcock is that supposedly he might keep Free Agents out of here.
This Hitchcock quote is from Daily News:
quote:


"Our system has nothing to do with when we have the puck at all," Hitchcock said. "And I'm never telling a Pavel Bure or Eric Lindros or Brett Hull or Mike Modano what to do with the puck — that's just not happening. But defensive hockey to me — and that is just the play without the puck — there isn't a lot of room for negotiation."


that puts him at top of my list. (and his record at Dallas doesn't hurt.


As for IslesBaby, anyone who adds something to a discussion is welcome; anyone who demonstrates lack of intelligence should stay with their own team. Just an opinion.



This message was edited by PeterDragon on 4-16-02 @ 10:59 AM


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