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The Matrix Reloaded (A Matrix within the Matrix?) - Ronin - 05-28-2003

I know there is a Matrix topic already, but I didn't want this discussion lost in that thread.

Alright, my coworkers and I were talking about the Matrix Reloaded. And a guy said that even though the free-borns and Morpheus and etc. are outside the Matrix, they are STILL in the Matrix.
His reasoning:
1) Neo destroyed the Sentinels outside the Matrix.
2) The Architect said that this has happened 9 other times and they just reload the Matrix everytime. And they create Zion for the people that don't except the Matrix. So technically, the people in Zion are still in the Matrix.

I don't think I believe this though, but it is awfully convincing.. I just thought Neo has powers also outside the Matrix.. and Zion really does exist.

What do you guys think? My coworker makes an interesting point, but is it valid??


The Matrix Reloaded (A Matrix within the Matrix?) - Sloats - 05-28-2003

And here I was trying to figure out why everyone from Zion is non-white.....




whoaaaaa. That's ever more Orwellian than the whole Oracle run around.


The Matrix Reloaded (A Matrix within the Matrix?) - Ronin - 05-28-2003

Quote:Originally posted by Sloats
And here I was trying to figure out why everyone from Zion is non-white.....

The main counselor was white though!


The Matrix Reloaded (A Matrix within the Matrix?) - DarkHippie - 05-28-2003

Quote:Originally posted by Sloats
And here I was trying to figure out why everyone from Zion is non-white.....
The Architect's white though, cause no matter how many shvatzes get together, there's still some Kentucky Fried Chicken-looking guy running the show


The Matrix Reloaded (A Matrix within the Matrix?) - 60FeetUnderWater - 05-28-2003

just reading about this theory makes my head spin. I will watch the film again and I will ponder this very question you have brought up.

Afterwards, I'll either respond with my take on it all OR I'll just choose to wait for Revolutions to see what truely is the case...

You have piqued my curiosity though...thanks, you just gave me the incentive to watch it for that 3rd time like the commercial suggests. Cool


The Matrix Reloaded (A Matrix within the Matrix?) - Ronin - 05-28-2003

i didn't think I would go see it again but after my coworker telling me this, it makes me want to go see it again to make sure..


The Matrix Reloaded (A Matrix within the Matrix?) - The Brain - 05-28-2003

Actually, the development of Neo's powers outside got a brief mention in the other thread as well.

My guess is that since he is an anomaly, and sort of a hybrid between the computer and human worlds, his powers can exist in both. He just didn't really know he could until visiting the Architect and learning what he was.

Also remember that all of the previous Neos had chosen to return to the source, and "reboot" the program. None of them had ever chosen to return to the real world, so none of them ever knew if their powers could be extended.


The Matrix Reloaded (A Matrix within the Matrix?) - BARRY MANILOW - 05-28-2003

That's a REAL interesting angle! I'm definatly gonna have to see it again to see if there are any other "hints"!:backflip:


The Matrix Reloaded (A Matrix within the Matrix?) - Crack Hitler - 05-29-2003

quite the conundrum we have with this flick. i had planned on seeing it one more time, but now that i think about it, that commercial that says "if you are only going to see 3 movies this summer make it reloaded 3 times" fuck me, they weren't kidding.


The Matrix Reloaded (A Matrix within the Matrix?) - Ronin - 05-29-2003

am i over exagerrating though??? do you think we are looking too much into the movie though?