US Civil War by 2005! Global Nuclear War by 2015!

[madmick]

Originally posted by Ronin

Originally posted by Rooner

Originally posted by The Brain

Originally posted by Rooner
I gotta go buy some ammo.

Wouldn't that be a violation of your parole conditions?

Ive been cleared of all charges. Im free to go on a drunken shooting rampage any time I want.

what does that license look like?!?!?!?!

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[Hosp]

I'm going to do as the great leaders before me have. Like Clinton, and Quayle, I'm getting the fuck out of Dodge.

Hottie, do you have a room to rent?

[60FeetUnderWater]

Originally posted by The Brain

Highly doubtful.

We can't even establish a permanent lunar base or space station, but suddenly we'll leap forward in technology to be able to manipulate the time/space continuum?

*disclaimer*
again...I'm rolling with the "devils advocate" role, ok? (even though a part of me really does feel this way...)


Well, sometimes discoveries/leaps in technology come about unintentionally, don't they? "Happy accidents" I like to call them. What if they just happen to "stumble" upon these "microsingularities"?

And then, having accomplished this feat, we only jump back about some 30 years into the past? Why not further back, to perhaps prevent WWI or WWII? Or even further, to document mankind's development (to end the debate over evolution vs. divine creation)?

well, what if he thought that going back that far was too risky? If he truely intended on diverting us from his "reality" of civil & nuclear war, maybe he realized that the best chance of doing that was to inform us at this stage of things?

Maybe he felt that if he went back too far, a whole other set of horrible outcomes would have been created?

I read a short story once and it dealt with a man that went back in time to observe dinosaurs. He inadvertantly stepped on a butterfly and killed it. Turns out that by killing this one butterfly, it set up a completely different chain of events and thus, changed his reality that he left in the first place.

Thats the kind of premise I'm working with here...that if this guy went too far back, who knows what other issues would have been inadvertantly created?

You can't say that he's not trying to interfere with history... the simple fact that he would have come back to \"predict\" to us our future <i>is</i> an alteration of history.

this is true. I have no retort here. :nod:

[Sloats]

Originally posted by Ronin


Is that an Aerobed on the right?
And that seat looks like is it from GM Delta '77.

HOAX!

But this guy's story I believe. the kicker is at the end ( I have highlighted it for you)

'TIME-TRAVELER' BUSTED FOR INSIDER TRADING
Wednesday March 19, 2003



By CHAD KULTGEN

NEW YORK -- Federal investigators have arrested an enigmatic Wall Street wiz on insider-trading charges -- and incredibly, he claims to be a time-traveler from the year 2256!

Sources at the Security and Exchange Commission confirm that 44-year-old Andrew Carlssin offered the bizarre explanation for his uncanny success in the stock market after being led off in handcuffs on January 28.

\"We don't believe this guy's story -- he's either a lunatic or a pathological liar,\" says an SEC insider.

\"But the fact is, with an initial investment of only $800, in two weeks' time he had a portfolio valued at over $350 million. Every trade he made capitalized on unexpected business developments, which simply can't be pure luck.

\"The only way he could pull it off is with illegal inside information. He's going to sit in a jail cell on Rikers Island until he agrees to give up his sources.\"

The past year of nose-diving stock prices has left most investors crying in their beer. So when Carlssin made a flurry of 126 high-risk trades and came out the winner every time, it raised the eyebrows of Wall Street watchdogs.

\"If a company's stock rose due to a merger or technological breakthrough that was supposed to be secret, Mr. Carlssin somehow knew about it in advance,\" says the SEC source close to the hush-hush, ongoing investigation.

When investigators hauled Carlssin in for questioning, they got more than they bargained for: A mind-boggling four-hour confession.

Carlssin declared that he had traveled back in time from over 200 years in the future, when it is common knowledge that our era experienced one of the worst stock plunges in history. Yet anyone armed with knowledge of the handful of stocks destined to go through the roof could make a fortune.

\"It was just too tempting to resist,\" Carlssin allegedly said in his videotaped confession. \"I had planned to make it look natural, you know, lose a little here and there so it doesn't look too perfect. But I just got caught in the moment.\"

In a bid for leniency, Carlssin has reportedly offered to divulge \"historical facts\" such as the whereabouts of Osama Bin Laden and a cure for AIDS.

All he wants is to be allowed to return to the future in his \"time craft.\"

However, he refuses to reveal the location of the machine or discuss how it works, supposedly out of fear the technology could \"fall into the wrong hands.\"

Officials are quite confident the \"time-traveler's\" claims are bogus. Yet the SEC source admits, \"No one can find any record of any Andrew Carlssin existing anywhere before December 2002.\"

Weekly World News will continue to follow this story as it unfolds. Keep watching for further developments.

Many investors and other members of the public have asked us about news reports concerning the Andrew Carlssin, an alleged \"time-traveler\" who supposedly made a fortune in the stock market by trading in the year 2003 based on information gleaned from his travels to the future. The reports appear to be a hoax. The SEC has not, in fact, brought an enforcement action against any such person.

*Cough*

[Goatweed]

just because he came back with warnings of possible things to come, I don't see that as him altering history - in fact, based on what I read it seems the path we are on is basically set and there isnt all that much we can do about it aside from take steps to prepare. He did mention that water is scarce, so maybe that's his way of saying "start saving up water".

I just found this site today so I can't really comment on whether I believe it or he is valid in any way - but he does make some interesting points, the Iraq line was especially chilling.

Is time travel possible? I think it is, but should we use it? I don't think so - as for why he didnt try to go back and prevent anything, well why would he? In all seriousness, changing a huge event like that could totally reshape future events, so why would he or anyone wanna take a chance like that? If your parents were born because they met through circumstances brought upon by WWII and you go back in time to prevent the war from happenming, the chances of your parents meeting now dissapates - as does your existence.

I know it sounds all Back To The Future, but I think the theory behing trevelling through time is solid, but the ethics involved are just as solid.

[Ladbag]

Originally posted by Ronin


Is that an Aerobed on the right?
And that seat looks like is it from GM Delta '77.

HOAX!

But this guy's story I believe. the kicker is at the end ( I have highlighted it for you)

'TIME-TRAVELER' BUSTED FOR INSIDER TRADING
Wednesday March 19, 2003



By CHAD KULTGEN

NEW YORK -- Federal investigators have arrested an enigmatic Wall Street wiz on insider-trading charges -- and incredibly, he claims to be a time-traveler from the year 2256!

Sources at the Security and Exchange Commission confirm that 44-year-old Andrew Carlssin offered the bizarre explanation for his uncanny success in the stock market after being led off in handcuffs on January 28.

\"We don't believe this guy's story -- he's either a lunatic or a pathological liar,\" says an SEC insider.

\"But the fact is, with an initial investment of only $800, in two weeks' time he had a portfolio valued at over $350 million. Every trade he made capitalized on unexpected business developments, which simply can't be pure luck.

\"The only way he could pull it off is with illegal inside information. He's going to sit in a jail cell on Rikers Island until he agrees to give up his sources.\"

The past year of nose-diving stock prices has left most investors crying in their beer. So when Carlssin made a flurry of 126 high-risk trades and came out the winner every time, it raised the eyebrows of Wall Street watchdogs.

\"If a company's stock rose due to a merger or technological breakthrough that was supposed to be secret, Mr. Carlssin somehow knew about it in advance,\" says the SEC source close to the hush-hush, ongoing investigation.

When investigators hauled Carlssin in for questioning, they got more than they bargained for: A mind-boggling four-hour confession.

Carlssin declared that he had traveled back in time from over 200 years in the future, when it is common knowledge that our era experienced one of the worst stock plunges in history. Yet anyone armed with knowledge of the handful of stocks destined to go through the roof could make a fortune.

\"It was just too tempting to resist,\" Carlssin allegedly said in his videotaped confession. \"I had planned to make it look natural, you know, lose a little here and there so it doesn't look too perfect. But I just got caught in the moment.\"

In a bid for leniency, Carlssin has reportedly offered to divulge \"historical facts\" such as the whereabouts of Osama Bin Laden and a cure for AIDS.

All he wants is to be allowed to return to the future in his \"time craft.\"

However, he refuses to reveal the location of the machine or discuss how it works, supposedly out of fear the technology could \"fall into the wrong hands.\"

Officials are quite confident the \"time-traveler's\" claims are bogus. Yet the SEC source admits, \"No one can find any record of any Andrew Carlssin existing anywhere before December 2002.\"

Weekly World News will continue to follow this story as it unfolds. Keep watching for further developments.

This didn't work for "Biff" in B2TF3 either

[BARRY MANILOW]

Originally posted by goatweed

I know it sounds all Back To The Future, but I think the theory behing trevelling through time is solid, but the ethics involved are just as solid.

Sure it is...all we've got to do is hit 88 MPH...!

[FollowThisLogic]

Originally posted by The Brain

Originally posted by 60FeetUnderWater
the only thing truely disturbing is this:

What if he's for real?

:disappointed:

Highly doubtful.

We can't even establish a permanent lunar base or space station, but suddenly we'll leap forward in technology to be able to manipulate the time/space continuum? And then, having accomplished this feat, we only jump back about some 30 years into the past? Why not further back, to perhaps prevent WWI or WWII? Or even further, to document mankind's development (to end the debate over evolution vs. divine creation)?

You can't say that he's not trying to interfere with history... the simple fact that he would have come back to "predict" to us our future <i>is</i> an alteration of history.

Brain, he actually does explain most of this. I know it takes a long time to read all that's there, but it's a pretty interesting read.

A lot of it is centered on "worldlines" and string theory. String theory predicts basically an infinite amount of universes, all with different outcomes, and these are the "worldlines" that he talks about. (This is not something he just made up, string theory does actually exist in science.) So there's a worldline where you decided to step off the curb without looking first and got creamed by a truck, on and on, for every choice, there's a world where the other one was made.

As you time travel, you're also traveling to a different worldline. So on John Titor's worldline, he never posted on a message board in 2000-2001... only in ours. To change a major event here, changes our future, based on knowledge from his worldline's past, and that causes our worldline to divert from his.

He also explains that he can't go back more than about 60 years without the divergence between worldlines being too great. He gave one example that if he decided to travel back 2000 years to meet Christ, he'd be more than likely to land on a worldline where Christ was never even born.

Of course, this worldline theory gives him a nice opt-out if the future predictions are false... "oh well, must have been different on this worldline".... which could be debated either way between supporters and detractors...

Titor figured that our worldline was about 1-2% different from his, and said that he thought our worldline wasn't different enough to avoid the war.

I dunno, I find it interesting, true or not.

The guy does know a little bit about how a lot of up-and-coming technologies work..... whoever he is, he sure did his homework...

[BARRY MANILOW]

Originally posted by FollowThisLogic

A lot of it is centered on \"worldlines\" and string theory. String theory predicts basically an infinite amount of universes, all with different outcomes, and these are the \"worldlines\" that he talks about. (This is not something he just made up, string theory does actually exist in science.)

[Sloats]

Originally posted by BARRY MANILOW

Originally posted by FollowThisLogic

A lot of it is centered on \"worldlines\" and string theory. String theory predicts basically an infinite amount of universes, all with different outcomes, and these are the \"worldlines\" that he talks about. (This is not something he just made up, string theory does actually exist in science.)

THAT'S BULLSHIT.

Sliders starred Ryes-Davies (Dwarf/Tree Guy from LotR)