02-20-2004, 06:21 AM
GonzoStyle Wrote:Your point is exactly my point with different wording.When you say seperate between white and black, that's not to say that people make a distinction between white and black. Of course they do, it's like distinguishing between big noses and small noses.
You say black and white should be equal in everything but the difference between skin color is noted, I agree.
But the gays are different how? in the fact they marry same sex, is that any different than interracial marriage then by your standards? It's marriage but by people of different color which also was illegal back when we had seperate water fountains.
My point was that this today is a throwback to the civil rights movement of the 60's for rights for blacks to vote, have equal opportunity in the workplace and in life. Gays want to be recognized now in their unions, so my point of the seperate water fountains metaphor lies in this simple fact.
Do people still today seperate black and white? yes.
is it right? no.
Same as they seperate man and woman, black and white, immigrants and natives, etc etc.
But in the end they still have their rights as defined by laws and our constitution, the fags don't.
There are people have prejudicial values, and keep away from blacks, or keep away from whites, because they are prejudice. That is bad.
Homosexuals are only different in that they are not heterosexuals. That's all. But marriage has always been defined as man and woman, as being heterosexual. So, a civil union is actually even more inclusive than marriage. IT means the union of any two people.
The discrimination against gays, that would be the only reason why people don't want civil unions in their state. Civil unions need to be afforded the same rights as a marriage, but there is no need to merge the terms if we have already insured that both unions will recieve the same rights.
It is a struggle to be gay in America. It is struggle to be anything in America. But we know what is right and wrong, all of us in this thread. All men are created equal.
I'm not following you when say that the fags don't have the same right as everyone else in the Constitution. If you mean in terms of civil unions, then yes, that is true. All civil unions should receive the same rights and privileges. If that's the only thing, then we have agreed on every point, and I've basicaly been forced to quote Howard Dean for shits and giggles.
And, just for the hell of it, here's two important amendments.
Quote:Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.