Gay Marriage

[The Sleeper]

MY POINT IS THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO MARRY PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PLACE! JESUS!

The government is who issues the marriage license.

There is a ceremony which occurs during a wedding.

That ceremony cannot take place in a Catholic Church if the two people are gay.

What if the two people want to have their ceremony in the church, because it is important to them for their wedding to occurs under the eyes of God, and as a part of the holy sacrament of marriage, which they believe in?

The government cannot tell the Catholic religion that the ceremony must occur in the church, because that would be infringing on the beliefs of the Catholic faith.

1) Either disassocate all governmental benefits from getting married, then they can do whatever the fuck they want wherever they want

or

2) Don't let marriage be a holy sacrament blah blah blah and keep it strictly govenmental

you can't have it both ways, or it is in violation of separation of church and state. you can loophole all you want, but it's still a violation

You're not understanding something here.

The Catholic gay couple can have their wedding ceremony done anywhere they want except in a Catholic Church.

They have the marriage license. If they want, they can just go to the JP and have the ceremony performed. They can get married.

The holy sacrament of marriage is a tenet of the Catholic religion. There are seven of them; baptism, confession, communion, confirmation, marriage, holy rites, last rights.

A Catholic marriage occurs when a man and a woman are married under the eyes of God, represented by an ordained priest, in a Catholic Church

That sacrament can't happen if the two people are gay, because the Catholic Church does not approve of homosexuality, and believes that marriage only occurs between a man and a woman.

The government cannot force the Catholic Church to change its beliefs so that a gay couple can have their ceremony done in a church.

The whole system of getting governmental benefits based on marriage needs to be changed, simple as that. Make everyone have a civil union, recognized by the government, ON TOP of whatever religious ceremony they want to have. Then I'm ok with it.