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mikehern
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posted on 06-19-2002 @ 10:29 AM      
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quote:
I don't know anything about soccer and don't really care


Why do you think you feel this way?
If there something about soccer that you find offense? Don't take this the wrong way. I am not being a smart ass. I play soccer. I just wonder way people in the US haven't taken to soccer but, they embrace wrestling and race cars.







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TeenWeek
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Some reasons I can think of:
1)Lack of offense. People like scoring.
2)Cannot touch the ball with your hands.
3)Actual time is kept by referee not the clock so you have no idea when it's over.
4)No high profile stars
5)Unless you are playing, very boring sport to watch just watching people kick the ball constantly.


mikehern
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posted on 06-19-2002 @ 6:10 PM      
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TW, Thanks for your response.
All of your points are valid from your perspective but I see it differently.

I play soccer in a league in Northern VA. I played football, baseball, and soccer in high school. I played soccer in college and in Germany while in the Army. I have a different opinion because I look at the game differently than you do.

I continue to hope that as the US in able to better compete with the rest of the world people will enjoy the game more.





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Ferret
posted on 06-20-2002 @ 10:09 AM      
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I'm going to try to listen to the USA-Germany game at work. Does anyone know a radio station or internet feed that carries it?




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PeterDragon
posted on 06-20-2002 @ 1:01 PM      
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quote:
4)No high profile stars


I agree with your other points, but "no high profile stars" is a catch-22; the reason there are no "high profile stars" is that soccer isn't popular here. Around the world, soccer stars are more recognizable than movie stars.
quote:
5)Unless you are playing, very boring sport to watch just watching people kick the ball constantly.


Point 5 gets down to the nitty gritty. This is common to most things. Baseball is popular because most males in the US played baseball at some time in their life. Auto racing is popular because most people have driven cars. This isn't the only reason, but a big reason. Why do Americans like baseball? If you've tried to hit a baseball, you appreciate how difficult it is.
To the rest of the world soccer is like baseball here - kids play it after school, fathers & sons talk about the game, they study nuances that we don't pick up, etc.


2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....)
1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice
1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play
2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base.
4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention)
mikehern
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posted on 06-20-2002 @ 2:20 PM      
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quote:
If you've tried to hit a baseball, you appreciate how difficult it is.


PD, great point.
I know a lot of people who let their daughters play youth soccer. Do you think that Americans see soccer as more of a girls sport?





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pantee man
Another asshole Isles fan who didn't say shit until they started winning.		posted on 06-20-2002 @ 3:55 PM      
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quote:
)Cannot touch the ball with your hands.


if you feel this way i will let you touch my ball.






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PlasticMan
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Dhalsim-Style Hand to Hand Specialist		posted on 06-20-2002 @ 4:22 PM      
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I'd like to re-ask Ferret's question. Anyone know how I can at least listen to the game at work? I'm afraid any of the bigger internet radio stations (I was thinking BBC radio) will be completely swamped...

Yahoo sucks. Just picture a baby flipping you off here.
It wasn't lies, it was just...bullshit.
PeterDragon
posted on 06-20-2002 @ 5:13 PM      
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mikehern,
I don't think american's characterize it as a woman's sport (although they did try to capitalize on woman's soccer after the Woman's olympic soccer win) but I think that most 2nd generation (or later) american adults haven't really played it. On long Island, kids soccer is pretty big, but when I lived in NYC I don't even remember my HS having a varsity team. My son plays both Little League Baseball, and intramural soccer, but if there are conflicts most americans keep with baseball. Most of the coaches in kids soccer don't have a clue about the nuances of the game, so they can't pass it on.

By the way, American coach Bruce Arena only became a soccer coach out of luck.
quote:
I remember a conversation after he continued his two-sport career at Cornell. Arena was offered the job as an assistant lacrosse coach at Virginia. He accepted it, thinking he would someday replace head coach Jim Adams. And, because he had some background in soccer, he was asked to coach the Cavaliers soccer team, which had players with talent barely above the intramural level.

"I'm not sure I want to do it [coach soccer]," Arena said. "But it'll hold me until the lacrosse job becomes available."

for the rest of the article Lacrosse Opened Door for Arena's World Cup Career



2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....)
1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice
1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play
2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base.
4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention)
mikehern
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posted on 06-21-2002 @ 6:37 AM      
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PD, Do you see any future for soccer in the US.
Will it ever be a major sport?





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Ferret
posted on 06-21-2002 @ 8:26 AM      
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BBC radio says it can't transmit the signal for legal reasons. Anyone else know a site or channel so that I can hear the 2nd half?




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Ferret
posted on 06-21-2002 @ 8:26 AM      
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Shittiest double post ever.





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This message was edited by Ferret on 6-21-02 @ 9:22 AM
Cluster F
posted on 06-21-2002 @ 10:39 AM      
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I have to say, ive changed my mind about this game of futbol. This game today was amazing, the US made a tremendous showing for themselves, and were inches away a number of times from scoring a goal.

Soccer in general i always thought was boring, i dont know if ill go out of my way to watch it now, but it aint so boring...when played at this skill level. The field doesnt seem so big in this setting, and im starting to appreciate the skill and strategy it takes to play this game.

However, im not sure if ill watch MLS style soccer now. The skill level just isnt that good compared to this. Thats like telling me, I am guaranteed to watch a few high quality major league baseball games every 4 years, but in the meantime, i have to watch 4 years worth of AA baseball. Im just not gonna do it, and thats why soccer may not get as popular here anytime soon. Because there isnt enough talent to have a major league level soccer league for 4 years straight before the world cup.

Thats just my view on it.


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2002 Crack Committee Objectives:
1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year
2. Hate the Braves with a passion
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
4. Mets win World Series
5. Win 22 out of the next 30 games (starting on June 15th)


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PeterDragon
posted on 06-21-2002 @ 12:05 PM      
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quote:
PD, Do you see any future for soccer in the US.
Will it ever be a major sport?


No.
CF mentioned some of the reasons. The reason there isn't as much talent is that the most talented players are going to other sports. In the past even some of the best american soccer players would rather kick for the NFL than play MLS.

Back in the 70's the Cosmos had some juice - they brought in Pele, Chinaglia(sp?), Beckenbaur(?), etc and played in Giants Stadium, but it was never even bigger than Hockey.

Hockey is probably the best comparison, and that has some deep roots in some northern states (Minn, the Dakotas, Mass, VT, CT, Maine, etc.)
Hockey also has the advantage that the NHL is the best hockey league; great american players will play in Europe.




2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....)
1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice
1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play
2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base.
4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention)
mikehern
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posted on 06-21-2002 @ 12:06 PM      
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ClusterF, You statements are very valid.
I love the sport and hope to see the quality of play improve in this country.






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Ferret
posted on 06-21-2002 @ 12:33 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
Every four years, people will watch if the USA is any good mostly out of nationalistic pride. If the World Cup didn't have that going for it, it would have about half the ratings that it does now.




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Syndrummer
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Congrats for Team USA. Not bad for a team that wasnt supposed to win anything. Every time there is some major soccer event, it becomes more popular in the USA. A few more years and we might have a chance.

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mikehern
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posted on 06-21-2002 @ 2:22 PM      
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SD, I hope you are right. I think there is enough room in America for another sport.





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PlasticMan
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I don't see the lack of talent in the US as a major hindrance to the sport of soccer. I love to watch the Premier League games when they're on Fox Sports. Granted, it'd mean more if I was directly involved in the rivalries, but I think true soccer fans are/would be willing to watch the greats play elsewhere.

One major hindrance I see is advertising. Without commercial breaks every five minutes, networks are reluctant to carry games. I mean really, how much does Nike pay to have that little logo in the corner of the screen for an MLS game? How much do they even pay for that during the World Cup final match? It can't be all that much.

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Brazil won I can't believe it


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Cluster F
posted on 06-30-2002 @ 11:32 AM      
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I guess all the "experts" who thought Brazil wasnt that good are eating their words now. Brazil ran through this tournament like it was no big deal. Congrats to them.


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2002 Crack Committee Objectives:
1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year
2. Hate the Braves with a passion
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
4. Mets win World Series
5. Win 22 out of the next 30 games (starting on June 15th)


Crack Committee Members: Cluster F, Rageparty, Bloody Anus, DiamondDust, JayMohrMassage, HammerSavage, PeterDragon, and 1888RustyTrombone...the force is growing.


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