02-11-2009, 04:38 PM
Imray_Pinasheep Wrote:Rock Monster Wrote:Now that I've looked into this a little, this may be fun...
19 fourth quarter comebacks, counting the playoffs. 19 out of 81 games = 23% Out of those 19 comebacks, he was only involved in 6 of the scoring plays.
I never said he wasn't good. I just said he was over rated. His defense has won him most of those games.
You and I have been through this, so I'm not looking to debate it any further.I'd just like to point out how the "involved in scoring plays" is a bit misleading when you're discussing how well a quarterback responds in a come from behind situation.. the point being that on a game-winning drive, Ben could go 7/7 with 60 passing yards. Then, when they get down inside the five and, the Steelers being the Steelers, they pound the ball in on the ground. Just because he didn't toss a TD to win the game doesn't make his contribution to the drive any less valuable.
That is true, yes.
But to counter that, a fourth quarter comeback could be when they are down 13-10 in the third quarter. They move the ball down (however they do it) to the 1, and the quarter runs out. 1st play of the fourth, they bang it in. No more scoring after that. Ben is credited with a 4th qtr comeback.
Also, in the sites I referenced, one of his "comebacks" was by the defense returning an int for a TD. How does he get credit for that?
And like I said, and talked to you about, he isn't a bad QB. I just don't think he's already a Hall of Famer like most are already to anoint him.
EDIT: Also, they were 4th quater game winning drives, not comebacks. Some of them they entered the 4th with a tie score. My bad...

3/30/2009 1:38 PM Loose Wendy wrote: "I would rather masturbate using a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire than have sex with Joe."