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Arthur Dent
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:14 PM      
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Hunting: Good or Bad
Guns: Good or Bad

I have no problem with controlled hunting. Because of a lack of natural predators, hunting is the only way left to control animal populations. Would you prefer introducing wolves into the woods behind your house in Jersey or upstate?

I think guns should be licensed the exact same way cars are. A person who wants to own a gun should have to take a course and take a test to ensure they know how to correctly use, clean, and store a firearm so the kids don't get to it.
And just as there are licenses for cars, trucks, limos, etc. there could be licenses for handguns, rifles, assault rifles, gun collecting, license to carry etc. with a class and test for every level.




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Hawaii Mapmaker
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:20 PM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
If, like Ted, you eat what you hunt, then that is fine, it's fucking natural.

quote:

A person who wants to own a gun should have to take a course and take a test to ensure they know how to correctly use, clean, and store a firearm so the kids don't get to it.


Hunting with say, an AK AK AK-47 is just dumb, Ted hunts w/Bow and Arrow, its more sportsman-like, to quote Andre from The Princess Bride

Actually, there are occasionaly coyotes and wolves sighted in parts of Jersey and NY.

If it is regulated, hunting is fine.

Arpikarhu
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posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:22 PM      
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why do we need to hunt to control animal populations? they did just fine before we got here. that is merely the phrase that people use when they encroach on animal habitats and dont like the results. as for classes and such, i agree with that for people who live in isolated areas and need them for protection or for people who deal with large amounts of valuables in thier business. otherwise , no one needs a gun.

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goodguybadge
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:28 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
I'm a vegetarian. I eat a vegetarian diet because I cant kill for food and the meat industry is terribly unhealthy, and in my mind unethical. But I give Ted Nugent a lot of credit for doing it the right way. It takes balls to only eat what you kill. I can respect his views.


Arthur Dent
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:30 PM      
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1. Animal populations are no longer naturally controlled because the predators have all been killed off or had their populations reduced to the point that they do not kill enough prey to have an effect on population. Why? because settlers, ranchers, trappers, and hunters in the early days killed them without thought. And noone wants their numbers to increase and possibly endanger some person.

2. People in large population areas face more threats than people in isolated areas. Why? Because the threat is other people. More people = more threats.

3. Guns are also fun to collect and are also used for a HOBBY. Some people go to a firing range just for the fun of putting holes in a paper target at 30 feet.


And no, I have never owned a gun or felt the need to. But, I have been to a firing range once.


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PanterA
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:34 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
I'm a vegeterian. There's nothing like a good steak.

what??


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posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:34 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
quote:

why do we need to hunt to control animal populations? they did just fine before we got here

Before we got here there were predators to keep prey animals population in check. We have killed all the predators, now we must take over thier roll.If we don't the prey animals will overpopualte and eat all thier food sources in one or two seasons. Then they will all starve to death. I don't hunt because I have no desire to kill anything, but I do understand the need for it.

Big Ed
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:36 PM      
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Registered: Aug. 00
Ok for all of you fucking yo yo's that believe guns are so bad tell me when the last time a gun jumped from a store rack and hurt some one all by itself! think about it people were killing each other long before guns were ever invented!

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posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:37 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
I feel that guns are ok hunting ok but these NRA nuts are crazy we don't need guns and does anyone think that a couple people wth M-16's will stop a government with A-bombs but then again if you want a gun and if you want to hunt go ahead. Just don't go crazy like the ted nugetguy that ass fucker

Big Ed
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:40 PM      
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Registered: Aug. 00
ANd another thing to all of you so called liberal people that acceppt evberything except anything that kills. When was the last time a criminal actually went throught the whole proccess of registering and buying a gun yhe leagal before killing and robbing . Taking guns away from law abiding citizens isn't going to solve anything .

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posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:43 PM      
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quote:


I'm a vegetarian. I eat a vegetarian diet because I cant kill for food

Aren't plants alive. Don't you have to kill them by pulling them out of the ground? Just because you can't hear a carrot scream, doesn't mean it isn't screaming.

Big Ed
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:44 PM      
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Registered: Aug. 00
why is ted nugent a nut because he hunts for his own food? check this out that hamburger you ate today used to be a living cow therefore someone had to kill it dipshit.



This message was edited by Big Ed on 6-13-01 @ 4:45 PM
Arpikarhu
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posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:46 PM      
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there are other ways to check the populations of animals that have little or no natural predators without letting a bunch of small dicked morons tramp throught the woods with shotguns. most of whom are poorly trained with firearms and dont make clean kills.
quote:

When was the last time a criminal actually went throught the whole proccess of registering and buying a gun yhe leagal before killing and robbing . Taking guns away from law abiding citizens isn't going to solve anything .



most of those guns are acquired by burgaling the homes of people who legally own guns . ipso facto, if they dont have them, the criminals cant get them.

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Arthur Dent
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:49 PM      
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quote:

And the angel of the lord came unto me, snatching me up from my place of slumber. And took me on high, and higher still until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself. And he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own midwest. And as we descended, cries of impending doom rose from the soil. One thousand, nay a million voices full of fear. And terror possesed me then. And I begged, "Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?" And the angel said unto me, "These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots! You see, Reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust." And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared, "Hear me now, I have seen the light! They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers!" Can I get an amen? Can I get a hallelujah? Thank you Jesus.
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This message was edited by Arthur Dent on 6-13-01 @ 5:02 PM
Big Ed
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:55 PM      
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Registered: Aug. 00
well there you go dipshit see people should be responsible for their own actions, so because some stupid fucking asshole wants break into my house i can't collect guns so now as an individual i am responsible for what some criminal motherfucker might do, how about this , that gun he was going to take from my house just might be the one to stop this asshole from hurting my family.

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The Painter
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posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:56 PM      
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quote:

most of those guns are acquired by burgaling the homes of people who legally own guns

that's just not true. What's your source

Dent, where did you get that quote?



This message was edited by The Painter on 6-13-01 @ 4:58 PM
Big Ed
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 4:59 PM      
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Registered: Aug. 00
some of these young stupid asses think they know it all

lberals suck
Arpikarhu
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posted on 06-13-2001 @ 5:01 PM      
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quote:

that's just not true. What's your source



an f.b.i. report that was quoted in the feb. 2000 issue of national heritage quarterly.
it states that the majority of handguns used during inner city crime were directly traceable
to b and e's that occured in mainly atlantic coast states with liberal gun laws.

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Arpikarhu
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I enjoy C&BT
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 5:07 PM      
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quote:

well there you go dipshit


quote:

some of these young stupid asses think they know it all




1. i generally find that when peolpe have to resort to personal remarks during an argument it means they have lost.

2. i am probably older than you.

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The Painter
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posted on 06-13-2001 @ 5:08 PM      
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quote:

mainly atlantic coast states with liberal gun laws.

That would be Florida and Virginia. These guns aren't really taken in a breaking and entering crime. They are bought legally,
some times 10 or 20 at a clip, and sold illegally by the person who bought them. Then this person reports them stollen. The people that do this illegal act sould be locked up.

Your first post refered to all guns, not handguns

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posted on 06-13-2001 @ 5:08 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

I'll have more to say later.

Basically, owning a gun or guns is guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Until the Supreme Court rules otherwise, Fuck You all!

Ted Nugent is an honest guy. Give him that. He talks the talk and walks the walk.

I don't personally hunt. But, I love guns and I respect them. If you've never been exposed to the wonder of firepower, shut the fuck up. It is truly something that complements the advancement of man.

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posted on 06-13-2001 @ 5:09 PM      
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quote:

Let's bring the debate here


Let's not. This is like debating music, everyone has an opinion and you aren't gonna change anyone's minds.


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Arpikarhu
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Needle dick, bear salesman. I think I'm a revolutionary. Actually, I'm a one trick pony.
I enjoy C&BT
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 5:11 PM      
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quote:

Let's not. This is like debating music, everyone has an opinion and you aren't gonna change anyone's minds



the honest exchange of beliefs and ideas is never a bad thing. its when it turns to name calling that it becomes pointless

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allyourbasearebelongtous
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 5:13 PM      
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Registered: Apr. 01
I have never been hunting, but I do enjoy shooting. I have a 7mm Remington Mag that I like to shoot at the range now and then. Shooting is a very relaxing activity. To hit a small target at several hundred yards away takes a great deal of skill and concentration. There are breathing techniques you must use to maintain your concentration and hands to keep the rifle still. Less than 2-3 millimeters of barrel movement equals a huge miss at 200+ yards.

Now, as for hunting, I am a firm believer in it. The majority of today's hunters are men and women who enjoy the outdoors and have a general concern for animal population control. Anoyone who is against animal control via hunting and has hit a deer with their car - YOU FUCKING DESERVED IT! I have seen several dead deer on my way to work each day. Not on back roads either - Route 1 in NJ. Dickwads who hunt with AK-47s are not real hunters. The AK-47 is not very accurate past 100 yards - if that. A good hunter shouldn't need more than one shot to bring down anything. Granted, there are some real kooks in the NRA, but the second amendment "A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed" clearly states that the people if this country have the right to bear arms. What you really need to ask yourself is, why doesn't this country's governing officials ENFORCE the laws they already have regarding illegal gun use instead of making new laws they will continue to not enforce?



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Arpikarhu
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I enjoy C&BT
posted on 06-13-2001 @ 5:14 PM      
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quote:

Basically, owning a gun or guns is guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Until the Supreme Court rules otherwise, Fuck You all!



while this is true, you have to remember this was written during a very different time, when militias were necessary to defend our freedom, something you have already said you could do without in a different thread. the need to have private citizens repel foriegn raiders from burning our capitol is over.

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