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Arthur Dent
posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:14 PM      
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with what's happening in Isreal/Palestine?

I mean, damn, can these people be any more blood thirsty?

And I've got to say, the Isreali's are on a very slippery slope. They started with shooting rubber bullets into crowds, then real bullets, then rockets fired by helicopters into empty buildings, then assinating palestinians because they MIGHT be planning terrorist acts. I can see this very easily leading to the EXTERMINATION or EXPULSION of ALL Palestinians. Ironic how the self-proclaimed most persecuted race on earth is suddenly the ones doing the persecuting because they've got the bigger guns.

The only reason the U.N. hasn't stepped in like they have in Rowanda and Bosnia is because Isreal's got the a-bomb.

No offense to jews in general, I'm talking about the Isreali hawks who will settle for nothing less than total domination of Isreal and Palestine.


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JohnSlack
posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:23 PM      
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The thing that gets me is that you will be labeled an Anti-Semite. Anyone who isn't pro israel is an anti-semite. That is total BS. I have alot of Jewish friends, but I still find this to be absurd.

The acceptance of the tired Israeli spin of "self defense" is a blind and blanket excuse for its own criminal activities and various forms of state terrorism that it employs against the Palestinians. An occupying power using unbridled military violence against a besieged civilian population has never been described as engaged in self-defense except by the most ignorant, misguided, or immoral apologists.

To I condone what the PLO does? No. But I think it pales in comparison to what the Israelis are up to..



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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:24 PM      
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during the last peace meetings the israelis offered a package of concessions that almost completely matched arafats demands. he then turned it down and started his terrorism campaign again. he realizes that if there is peace with the israelis he becomes redundant. he will not allow that. every israeli strike is merely a retaliation for terroris attacks. as an israeli soldier once said, we must win every battle, lose one and israel is gone.



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JohnSlack
posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:28 PM      
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I think its funny that the Media has this conflict pegged as two foes on equal footing, when in reality, Israel is occupying Palestine.

As far as the last peace meeting, the slanted US press is no source for info, no is the slanted arab press. go to the source. The UN.



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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:29 PM      
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quote:

the self-proclaimed most persecuted race on earth



sorry to double post, but i also find that statement offensive.

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Snoteater
posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:31 PM      
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With any luck, they'll wipe themselves out. They are a disgrace to humanity. I mean, live together in Iseral. Fuck this Iseral and Palistine shit. Live together or not at all.

Of course they will bring religion into it & say if we do that we'll lose our religious culture. BS. How stupid are they going to feel when They found out that they worship the same God.

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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:33 PM      
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it is a pretty offensive statement by saying the self proclaimed most persecuted, because there has been countless times that jewish people have been prosecuted and its pretty much riding it off as a "who gives a shit"

and no im not accusing anyone of anti semitism

think about it this way, im not there neither are any of you, picking sides is what you have to do but to call one side flat out wrong either side is something that shouldnt be done

terrorist attacks by palestines, unorthodox battle tactics by israelies, there is no absolute right

yes im jewish, and i side with israel not by default but when arafat said "they can all go to hell" you know it wasnt very friendly

and im aware that every religion occupies israel and im aware its not a completely jewish thing, but israel is just as important to them as it is to palestines

well i just ranted, and i hope i covered all bases
but i expect someone to reply cause i wanna feel special



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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:33 PM      
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ok, here are the facts: the israelis recaptured what is now considered israel in 1948, 1967, and 1972. after 72, no arab countries wanted what is known as the plo/pa, so israel allowed them to live in, yes, refugee camps. they easily could have killed them, but the jews don't wipe off a complete race, like the germans or the palestinians would like to do. when the oslo accord was signed, the arabs were allowed to work in israel. they are no loinger permitted to do so because they have choosen the path of war. arafat has no control over his people, and i question how much power he really had before hand. the israeli army is defending the country. the palestinians are defending nothing. they no longer have ties to any part of israel. it's like the indians coming back to claim america. everyone would just laugh, and say that it's the alcohol talking.


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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:34 PM      
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ok heres a topic i have quite a bit of experience with, so i might as well respond.

at this moment, i have one cousin in the israeli army, and another going in october. a good portion of my fathers side of my family live in israel, my cousins apartment is two blocks from where a suicide bomber blew up a nightclub last month (a club that he was at the night before).

that being said I HATE the israeli extremists who claim that the only way to end the fighting is to blow the PLO right off the planet. Israel has made 99% of the concessions for peace, this is true, but there is no way for the fighting to end without concessions on both sides.

I also think that the palestinian suicide bombers blowing up nightclubs and coffee shops in israel are the biggest cowards on the fuckin planet. the latest one killed 16 people, including 7 infants. real fucking brave, these people have the gall to consider themselves "soldiers."

and arthur, i agree that the israelis are being almost as bad as the palestinians, but i'd rather see them bomb these hamas buildings than see more restaurants in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem blown up by terrorists.

and i'm sorry arthur, but self-proclaimed nothing, you go to europe and the jews ARE the most persecuted race on the planet, and have been for centuries. trust me.

Since its inception, Israel has had at least one major war every single decade. Egyptians, Jordanians, Iraqis, and Palestinians have all invaded israel at one point or another since 1947. I think that they even though the extremists are full of shit, Israel is really trying to preserve itself.



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Sloatsburgh
posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:35 PM      
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quote:

i also find that statement offensive.



good, now do something about it.

I am all for arming the Palestines and letting both people eliminate themselves. This war is based on core values and only death would stop them from fighting over the land.

IT'S A FUCKING DESSERT!!!! YOU'RE FIGHTING OVER A FUCKING PILE OF SAND!!!! NOTHING GROWS THERE!!!!







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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:36 PM      
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quote:

Israel is occupying Palestine.


try reading the u.n. accord of 1947.

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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:38 PM      
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quote:

IT'S A FUCKING DESSERT!!!!


no. cherries jubilee is a dessert
shit. double post again. sorry
well said mrquotes.

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This message was edited by Arpikarhu on 8-14-01 @ 5:40 PM
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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:45 PM      
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oh yeah, another thing, while "palestine" was under arab rule, it was the most disgusting place to visit, as mark twain wrote in his autobiography. but once the jews came back, the land has returned to the land of milk and honey. that is a fact. look at the palestinian towns vs that of the israelis. it's the same land!! the israeli towns are green and the palestinian towns are dark and gray-gross really.

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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 5:48 PM      
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quote:

Is anyone else comletely disgusted


yes I am I'm neither Jewish not Palestinian so I could care less. where in the hell is a mod when you need one?



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Bartman
posted on 08-14-2001 @ 6:11 PM      
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When the israeli's attack a target it is justified because they are going after police stations and various other places where these attacks on israel are being planned and executed. On the other hand the coward's who are the palestinians attack civilian targets so there is no comparison. THe jewish part of israel is not desert for the most part they have irrigated it and it's very fertile while the Paelstinian areas are all desert. The israelis have been wiling to make concessions to the Palestinians. Even thought the Palestinians refuse to accept any of them. If the Palestinians had such a good cause why didnt any of the arab countries let them in to there country to live?? While on the other hand the israeli's where very accepting and set up Palestinian ares of israel and let them live and work under alot of there own control. But the Palestinians response is to attack the israeli's which is really messed up. Israel is just defending itself now and rightfully so.

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1.2 Niggawatts
posted on 08-14-2001 @ 6:29 PM      
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during the last peace meetings the israelis offered a package of concessions that almost completely matched arafats demands. he then turned it down and started his terrorism campaign again. he realizes that if there is peace with the israelis he becomes redundant. he will not allow that. every israeli strike is merely a retaliation for terroris attacks. as an israeli soldier once said, we must win every battle, lose one and israel is gone.

No Israeli attack for the last year has been in retaliation. The attacks started when Sharon and troops ILLEGALLY ENTERED a mosque in Palestine and arrested people. In addition to this, the Israeli government has sanctioned the execution of suspected terrorist leaders. SUSPECTED! No proof! In addition to this, Arafat is no longer involved with terrorist activities--he sanctions nothing. He is and always has been a figurehead for whatever groups he represents.

Shouldn't this be in Off-Topic?

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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 6:34 PM      
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There will never be peace in the Middle East. NEVER. It's been going on for thousands of years, and it will go on thousands of years after we are all dead and gone.

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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 6:52 PM      
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niggawatts you are a complete moron. your facts are not based on anything. the palestinan people have stated many times over and over that this current war had nothing to do with sharon's visit and that they had been planning war since last july. the only people arrested were those people that were throwing stones. the palestinain authority is run by terrorists that have been on the israeli most wanted list since the 80's. including yasser arafat. the israelis were executing people on their way to carry out terrorist activity. they are not targeting civilians. almost all the cilvilans killed were killed because the palestinians have very little regard for life, and place their children in the front lines, knowing that they will get killed by israeli fire. thus making the israelois look lkie murderers, when it's the children's own parents and siblings killing them/ what kind of people do this to their children???

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1.2 Niggawatts
posted on 08-14-2001 @ 7:08 PM      
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General Discussion
Voice your opinions, thoughts, ideas, etc about O&A here.

Off Topic
Talk about stuff non O&A related here.


Hello? Moderator? Someone? Put this string where it belongs. As for being a "complete moron," I wonder if you realize you're talking to a political history major. Back off. I'm not defending anyone: Nuke the Middle East, nuke the Palestinian supporters, nuke the Zionists/Israeli movement. They're all more trouble than they are worth.

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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 7:17 PM      
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by the way the reason that this thread is in gd is cuz o&a were talking about it before. as for you being a pol. history major, you might want to look a little more into the history part of it.
FYI--on fox news, they just said that there are 12 known palestinain terrorist cells wanted in the us, so i'm sorry to say, but it affects everyone.

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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 7:45 PM      
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1.2 Niggawatts, Pol. History major at Iona?
quote:

In addition to this, Arafat is no longer involved with terrorist activities--he sanctions nothing.

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If anyone remembers that thread a while back, I'm a Jew. That having been said, those suicide bombers are fags. And you remember that time a pair of Israeli soldiers rode the wrong way into Palestinian territory, where they were taken to a police station, their internal organs manually removed while they were still alive, then their bodies dropped into the bloodthirsty crowds to be tossed around and trampled?

Friggin animals. Have the Israelis ever done something like that?

Also, JohnSlack, get back to your pit of ignorance.





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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 8:02 PM      
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I knew we had a stupid bunch here, I just didn't realize how stupid.

Arthur, the next time you're going to go off on a rant, it might help to have even a basic understanding of the subject matter. Luckily, those who agreed with you chimed in, lowering the curb for all to just barely above that of retarded.

I was going to do the copy & paste thing, but I'd be here all night if I chose to counter every erroneous statememt babbled within this thread.

Suffice is to say that no other Nation, be it today or through out history, would've tolerated as much as Israel already has. How long would it (or should I say did it) take the United Stated to put down an Indian uprising? One need not look any further than Ruby Ridge or Waco, to see how well this Country suffers terrorist.

In the name of peace, Israel has not only given up land and granted clemency to hundreds of Palestinian criminals, both acts unthinkable in the modern World, but they've also passed on retribution countless numbers of times, and as recently as last week!

Branding Israel as the aggressors in this conflict might be hip in a rooting-for-the-underdog, fuck-authority type of way, but it's akin to blaming the rape victim who choses to finally fight back.



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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 8:07 PM      
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Let me first start off by saying that no one living here can truly know the feelings of those involved. Palestinians who feel they have been evicted from their homeland, and Israelis, who feel they have been evicted from the world and must fend for themselves.

Israel is far from right all of the time, but what other country is told to give back land it won in a war? I don't see the US giving back california to Spain.

On a partially related topic, Anyone who finds this remotely interesting should rent "One Day in September", which is the Oscar winning documentary about the 1972 Olympics. Maybe then you might get some idea why Israel feels that they must defend themselves, because they can't count on anyone else.

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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 8:27 PM      
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Holy Shit!
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posted on 08-14-2001 @ 8:36 PM      
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um, i can safely say that i do know what the people are feeling, as i have lived in israel for many years. i also have lots of family and friends that live there.
pd - one day in september is a great film. it was briliantly made.

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