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| christowang | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 10:17 PM |    | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Nov. 01  | I saw this on IRC one day. "christ also let his dumbass get nailed to a tree" - Gem-work | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 10:18 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:Ok, I'll test him. God, if you do exist, get me $1,000 in unmarked bills by tomorrow.  "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 10:22 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote:I'd say pretty fucking slim. But considering that earth is one planet, revolving around one of billions of stars, it really doesn't seem too far fetched. I think a better question would be, what are the chances of the right elements not combining somewhere in this incredibly huge universe. Anyway, all this god talk is getting redundant. Let's talk about Satan. The Nine Satanic Statements by Anton Szandor LaVey 1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence! 2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams! 3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit! 4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates! 5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek! 6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires! 7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development," has become the most vicious animal of all! 8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification! 9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years! Makes more sense to me, than a mysterious invisible man who one day decided to "create" stuff for his own amusement...  FTL is not to blame for this abomination of a sig pic. | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 12:38 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Tens of billions just in our galaxy. Multiply by literally hundreds of billions of galaxies. The right mix had to happen somewhere. I'd bet it happened in quite a few somewheres.  | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 12:52 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:but the bible doesn't account for aliens so it must not be true "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." | ||||
| YellowDiscipline IS STILL REALLY GAY | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 1:39 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 01 | quote:  In this picture, every single speck you see is a galaxy. Now, like FTL said, there are tens of billions of stars in a galaxy. Now multiply that by all the dots you see in this picture. Keep in mind, this is only one little section of space. Our feeble minds cannot even BEGIN to comprehend how infinitely huge the universe is. There are an infinite of other planets out there. With all this in mind, do you still think that there is no chance that at least ONE of these planets spawned life? Not only that but do you really believe that some mystical being can watch over all of this space all of the time? Do you also believe that we are the only life in the universe? Who's a guy got to blow to get some stars around here? P.S. FTL, is there ANY fucking subject that can come up that you won't know everything about. quote: In 12,000 years the North Pole will have moved away from Polaris and will be within 5 degrees of Vega (a Lyrae). Just a nifty little fact I decided to throw in for some odd reason.  This message was edited by YellowDiscipline on 3-3-02 @ 1:54 AM | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 11:53 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Hey, cool the Hubble Deep Field Image. That thing RULES.quote: Nope, I know everything. Heh. Actually, this thread is just a testament to the fact that I am a dangerous man when you give me as many Discovery Channels as I get on digital cable. I fucking LOVE Discovery Science, especially on Friday night (all space shows)... hehe... | ||||
| JackDan1974 | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 12:34 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 01 | FTL, It was not my theory about the moon, it was something that I saw on discovery. It talked about how if we did not have the moon we would be wobbling evey year, instead of every 25K lke you stated. It said that one year you would live in an artic desert, and the next in an actual desert, or what have you. Ikea, quote: What a mope you have to pay your tiding, and you will be rewarded on that not a test for your on gain without any sacrfic on your part something. I also saw your comments about wika in the military, so you don't believe in God, but Merlin you do..  This message was edited by JackDan1974 on 3-3-02 @ 12:49 PM | ||||
| YellowDiscipline IS STILL REALLY GAY | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 5:46 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 01 | quote: I think you misunderstood what they said. The moon's gravity is not stabalizing the Earth on it's axis or our seasons, it's the Earth's own tidal fores that pull the moon faster in it's orbit thus, by the laws of conservation of angular momentum between two orbiting bodies, losing rotational momentum. Friction between the oceans and the Earth's surface is slowing the Earth's rotation by 0.002 seconds every 100 years. The Earth's rotation will continue to slow, losing energy, until it's rotating so that a solar day equals a lunar month. The Earth's tidal bulge will point directly at the Moon, and the Moon will stop spiraling away from the Earth. The Earth will then keep its same side facing the Moon, just as the Moon presently keeps the same side facing the Earth. This has already happened to Pluto and its Moon, Charon, and is very common in the solar system. Man I love astronomy. I hope this makes sense. | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 6:11 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:What exactly are you saying? if I pray I'd get what god feels I deserve? that's bullshit. quote:Prove to me Merlin doesn't exist. "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." | ||||
| JackDan1974 | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 7:54 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 01 | quote: Not if you pray, but pay. It is a mark of giving up something for God. It is like he is giving you ten dollars, and you are giving him one back, and becasue you do that he will give youeven more. quote: No, they did not mention about the earth roatation stoping, and having a lunar like orbit. They said that the earth would wobble on it's axsis, at the season on the earth would become unpredictable. | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 8:27 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:so where do i sacrifice, and what do i sacrifice? "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 8:37 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote:God must be a real sucker. I wonder if he picked the Knicks to win it all... Stupidity - The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid. FTL is not to blame for this abomination of a sig pic. | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 9:27 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | This thread is supposed to be on the concept of religion, but it seems to be focused on certain interpretations of certain religions. FTL, when you are trying to contradict the bible, you look at the literal. Who is to say that biblical stories aren't allegories? not everyone believes that Adam being created from dirt means that god snapped his fingers and went from one thing(dirt) to another (human being)? Look at what makes up the human body. Aren't all of the elements found in dirt? (carbon compounds, water, Oxygen, etc?) Separating light from dark can be to set the world in order. Even the big bang theory gives the world an initial chaos that became more ordered. The idea of a god who personally cares which basketball team wins or who finds a $100 bill lying around, is not one everyone shares. If you were an omnipotent being would you care about all of the day to day mundane things, or would you save it for the big things? Again, I think that the concept of a god and science do not have to be mutually exclusive. The agnostic question is whether or not all the steps in evolution (or the creation of the universe) were accidental, or if there was something that had some sort of master plan.  | ||||
| JackDan1974 | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 11:18 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 01 | quote: Well said.. quote: Typically it is given to a church, but I think that in your case as long as you give to a worth cause you can see the rewards, Like a chairty or something of that nature. It is to show God that you are thankful of the gift he has blessed you with, and for you to try and share what you can with those less fortunite. | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 03-04-2002 @ 12:00 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Uh, in other words, you have to believe in him anyway to get something back out of this test. Sounds like a pretty lame deal to me. quote: This is the bullshit that I really fucking hate. You're trying to modernize a book written 1500 years ago. Stop it. Remember, the book wasn't written by some guy who was there and saw it all. It was written by someone many, MANY years later. And it was meant very literally by that person. Because that person didn't know any better. There was no scientific fact to point to the Earth being any older than the story of god creating it, which had been passed down from generation to generation until someone put it on paper - or perhaps the author just FUCKING MADE IT UP. Do you know? No. Do I know? No. But to deny that there's a chance that the ENTIRE Bible could be fiction is to give up ALL sense of logic and reason, at which point you are beyond fucking help and I'd love to help you die ASAP so you can get your proof. Basically the bullshit you have spewed has been made up. Why? So you don't doubt yourself. Science has come a long way and is, frankly, making the Bible look ridiculous. So religious nutcases make shit up out of thin air to calm their own bleeding hearts, to make the Bible fit into science again. It, like the Bible itself, is made-up horse shit. quote: quote: Therefore, if god was omnipotent, he could take care of all things, no matter what size, at the same time. He wouldn't care about how many things there are to do, because he can do them all without effort. | ||||
| disgustip8ed | posted on 03-04-2002 @ 2:17 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | god is dead, I am alive. Human beings are animals. There is nothing more to it. We will evolve, we will live, we will die. Our life is passed on in the next generation, which evolves slightly more. Just like animals. Thats all we are. There is no God. God, as has been said before, is a safety blanket. God is there so people don't go nuts from thinking about how insignificant they truly are.  It's not like I killed someone. It's not like I drove a spitefull spear into your side. You talk to Jesus Christ as if he knows the reasons why he did it all for you. | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 03-04-2002 @ 3:41 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:Wait, how do I GET money by giving it to charities? Seriously- you're saying this as if it's after getting the money. I don't have the money. Giving the money I DO have to charities won't get me more money. And yes about the Bible, you might say "oh it's allegorical" but far too many people take it for face value. They take all the stories as fact. All the people as real. All the names, quotes and incidences as gospel. If you say "oh the book's just symbolic of other things" it will destroy so much faith. "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." This message was edited by IkeaBoy on 3-4-02 @ 3:44 AM | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 03-04-2002 @ 3:59 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | See, Ikea, the "gift" is good treatment after death. This unreliable god guy really can't give you a whole lot till you die. Which bolsters the proof that god, heaven, hell, it was all made up by man cause he's afraid of death. Is it time for me to bring up the Santa Claus comparison yet? I love watching heads spin on that one. | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 03-04-2002 @ 4:25 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | I wonder, does that have anything to do with comparing the promises of the church that God will accept you into heaven and grant you a eternally blissful afterlife, provided you live your life by his standards, to the promises of parents to their young children that Santa Claus will bestow upon them wonderful presents, provided Santa approves of their behavior throughout the year? "He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake..." Thus then, making Santa Claus the surrogate for "God" in the eyes of children, up until the point when they realize that the idea of a guy riding a sled pulled by magical reindeer squeezing down chimneys is utterly preposterous, at which time they are trained to go from answering to a magical fat man to answering to a magical invisible man. Sure, at first, the idea of the magical invisible man is just as far fetched and unbelieveable as the magical fat man, which is why the stakes are upped from a lump of coal, to eternal damnation. I'd say it's easier to accept the unacceptable when you have the thought of living forever and ever in a firey furnace, but you don't want to expose weak fragile children to that image too early, thus the creation of the lovable St. Nick. Am I close? Solipsism - Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won't. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of "Do unto others as they do unto you." It's work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point. FTL is not to blame for this abomination of a sig pic. | ||||
| Donny | posted on 03-04-2002 @ 7:46 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 02 | I guess as loong as we continue to share thoughts on this topic, I'll keep discussing it, BUT sorry CT I'm not converting to Judaism soon. FTL said (among other things) about "interpreting" the bible: quote: Dare I quote your famous quote at this point (see above many times) - just because someone didn't understand, in this case what they were writing about, doesn't mean it wasn't true. I think so-called modern interpretations of writings of any sort are quite valid. quote: My God? My God, I don't own him. I have no reason to believe or disbelieve in aliens and am not any knid of an expert whatsoever on the bible. I would go on record to say though, that if you studied the bible you could probably find something that would cover it. Who cares? quote: I didn't say "man/woman" would discover the reason for it all, I used that term to state that either someone/something other than God had to create from nothing or God had to. Who or what would you bank on? I opt for the Almighty being. Let the records state that I really have no fuckin' clue. I may be talked out of this topic ________________________________________________________ | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 03-04-2002 @ 9:53 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: First of all, the old testament pre-dates christ, so that number is off. I cannot speak about the new testament, the Quoran, or any other book, so I will leave it to them. Throughout jewish history all of the main stories were thought to be allegorical and subject to interpretations. That doesn't necessarily mean some didn't think that the events happened or didn't happen - that was minor. What was important was the purpose or the lesson. If you believe in god and believe that the bible is his book, then the stories would have been devinely inspired - and as such it is irrelevant what the people then knew - just as scientific theory can be refined, religious theory can be refined. More to the point FTL, what you are referring to in your rebuttals is a narrow view of christianity. There are many other religions, as well as many other sects of christianity who believe different things, and who, like you, disbelieve some things. That doesn't mean there is no god, it means that they question one interpretation. I resent your implications that anyone who believes is stupid. Again, there are many Nobel Prize winners who believe that there is a god - does that mean that they are all stupid? You may choose to align your beliefs along with Karl Marx; that is your perogative. However, unless you know something that no one else knows, you can't definitively know the answer as to whether or not there is a god. When you wish to disprove individual religious ideas, you have a better chance of being correct. When you attempt to slop all means of religious belief together in an attempt to discredit them all, you are in an unwinable position - you have as much chance to prove that there is or isn't life on other planets. Given our state of learning, both answers are unreachable.  This message was edited by PeterDragon on 3-4-02 @ 10:23 AM | ||||
| JackDan1974 | posted on 03-04-2002 @ 10:02 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 01 | quote: I completely agree with you that you cannot take it at face value, and you have to remeber of the time it was written, and that it has been translated from the orginal text. It may not be a 100% literal translation, but the main idea's would not be lost. Which to me are honor God, and Treat others as you would have them treat you. If you do those two things, then your action will incompass the ten commandments. You all think that there has to be proof, and are quick to believe in sceince, becasue it can provide a tangble evidence. I am not saying that I do not belive in scince becasue I do, but I also have my faith. I do believe there are things such as black holes, and nebulas millions of miles away. I just think that Could that not be a test in our faith. | ||||
| diceisgod I ALWAYS LOSE. | posted on 03-04-2002 @ 11:36 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 01 | I believe I've found the answer to all of our questions. quote:  Nobody fucks with Dice, Dice does the fuckin! | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 03-04-2002 @ 2:42 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Damnit, Sir O, you stole my thunder, but yeah that's the point. Santa: If you're good, you get presents. If you're bad, you get a lump of coal. Religion: If you're good, you go to heaven. If you're bad, you go to hell. quote: You, sir, have obviously and grossly twisted my quote, which reads: quote: The last bit, the most important bit, which you seem to have forgotten, I have put in boldface for you. Peter, though you did get me on the number for the old testament (oops), the fact that it's older only makes my point more valid. quote: Gee, I don't recall reading that disclaimer at the beginning of the Bible. Perhaps you can show it to me sometime. The "open to interpretation" theory is another that was invented when science started to make the Bible look like complete madness. quote: Doesn't make you a stupid person as a whole, but blindly believing that a big guy in the sky is gonna make things all better, or created everything when science clearly points in another direction, is fucking stupid. I didn't imply it, I flat out said it, just for you. The answer may be unreachable, but if you'd take the time to think over the LOGICAL and SCIENTIFIC aspects of the world that I have posted here instead of blindly and automatically saying I'm wrong just cause it's not what YOU were raised to believe.... hell you're no better than a Stern Nazi that comes here to bash O&A. Your blind faith keeps you from even thinking about the things that I say, thinking that they JUST MIGHT be true - why? Cause if you did think of those things, you might start to question your beliefs. And your blind faith doesn't allow for questioning. If your faith has distorted your view of reality this much, I find you to be a sad, pathetic human being. Tell me, WHY do you believe in all this religion horse shit? I'm very curious. What makes you believe in it all, and keeps you believing? | ||||
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