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JackDan1974
posted on 03-04-2002 @ 5:15 PM      
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quote:

The answer may be unreachable, but if you'd take the time to think over the LOGICAL and SCIENTIFIC aspects of the world that I have posted here instead of blindly and automatically saying I'm wrong just cause it's not what YOU were raised to believe.... hell you're no better than a Stern Nazi that comes here to bash O&A. Your blind faith keeps you from even thinking about the things that I say, thinking that they JUST MIGHT be true - why? Cause if you did think of those things, you might start to question your beliefs. And your blind faith doesn't allow for questioning.

If your faith has distorted your view of reality this much, I find you to be a sad, pathetic human being.

Tell me, WHY do you believe in all this religion horse shit? I'm very curious. What makes you believe in it all, and keeps you believing?



What makes a person belive it is something called faith. I am still searching for a church that is more in line with my personal beliefs. I do agree with you on somethings, and I do not try to discount science, but have science renforce my bleifs. It has been proven that the world at one time was under water like the great flood implies in the Old Testment.





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posted on 03-04-2002 @ 5:35 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

Tell me, WHY do you believe in all this religion horse shit? I'm very curious. What makes you believe in it all, and keeps you believing?

ftl, it is very possible to beilive in both God and science, without them cancelling eachother out.
here's an example, my uncle is a physicist, and he and his friend "re-discovered" the biblical "blue" through science. the biblical blue was used on 4 cornered garments in the time of the bible, God said that, "one of the strings should be blue (tekhelet)". Since the second exile of the jews from israel, this blue dye was lost. but early in the 20th century, rabbis began to discovor a type of snail that produces this "biblical blue" and through science, my uncle has been able to prove this snail to be the correct snail.



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posted on 03-04-2002 @ 5:47 PM      
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How does finding ink prove that God exists? We've already determined that the Bible was written by man. If one was to write a book based about the 'world' they'd include aspects that were common to them (e.g. writing a book and describing a pen) or a natural disaster (e.g. flood). This doesn't prove God just that the Bible is a book.




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posted on 03-04-2002 @ 5:52 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
ikea, it's not ink, it's a natural dye that comes from the saliva of a snail. if God wanted ink, he would've said ink, but this comes from a living breathing creature.
also, the old testament, the torah anyway, is more than just a story book. there's a whole section of how to build the temple, and the sacrafices that one should bring. i don't think that man can just pull shit out of the air of what they can and can not bring in to the temple, and how much. it goes down to the nitty gritty of it.



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PeterDragon
posted on 03-04-2002 @ 7:23 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

Gee, I don't recall reading that disclaimer at the beginning of the Bible. Perhaps you can show it to me sometime. The "open to interpretation" theory is another that was invented when science started to make the Bible look like complete madness.


First of all, the old testament is a basis for both judiasm and christianity (and partially for islam), and they can't agree on much - obviously interpretation is there.

Again, I cannot speak for Catholicism (where the Pope knows all :) ), but Jewish biblical scholars spend many hours and hours interpreting the portions. CT can give you many more examples, but if you would ever read the passover story (Haggadah), there is a story about how rabbis argue whether there were 10 plagues, 40 plagues, 50 plages or more based on the wording of the biblical passage. Interpretation is an integral part of the belief. That doesn't mean that Rabbis go around telling people to do their own interpretation, but there are thousands who spend time analyzing exactly what was said, and different rabbis give you different meanings.
The fact that you were never told that the bible was subject to interpretation was due to the religious groups you were exposed to. Religion comes in many flavors.
Even simply, think about how many variations of Christianity there is. Even among Catholics, Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholics can't agree as to when is Christmas. Judiasm has major splits over its variations. Obviously someone is doing interpreting.

In the end, one either has faith or doesn't, and if they do have faith, they may have a different opinion in the involvement in a higher power.

Even in science you (as an individual) must have faith sometimes - not every theory is understandable to everyone, and if you believe that something you don't understand is true, you have faith in those who have demonstrated the "proof".

dirtydingusmagee
posted on 03-04-2002 @ 9:37 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
I wonder how many people know that most religions have a "part for mass consumption"(for regular people)and a part that is for the insiders like upper level priests,rabbis,etc?

The various simplistic tales in the Bible taken at their face value were to quench the religious thirst of the common people of the time;there are indeed levels that the Bible can be read on;initiates can reveal levels of meaning not available to people who don't put the time into it.A simple example of this is when the number "3" appears(just like in Moby Dick);a "3" can mean just a number,or can represent "birth-life-death" or "mother-father-child" etc.There are even various number correspondences in the Bible where (mainly) Jewish scholars transpose the letters of a word to number,then do an analysis on the basis of the number(might be called "gematria" or similar).

Arguing on a level that,for example,Noah's Ark would have to have been 15 miles long to fit the animals in;and therefore the story,and thus the rest of the Bible, is bullshit,is missing a large part of the point.

The Jewish religion is also very interesting in the almost "magic" set of beliefs called Cabala;this is a very powerful set of beliefs which is actually a blueprint of the psyche of man.Before the modern day,only true scholars who showed reverance for the religion were taught this system;these days,you can walk into any Barnes and Noble and find 50 books on the subject.

A study of "inner space" is just as interesting as "outer space".

BTW,astro fans,did you ever hear of the female cosmologist at Princeton who works on the theory that the Universe is actually 11 or 26 dimensions;that the extra dimensions are not "collapsed" to the size of atoms but exist "right in front of your face",as it were;
and that our little 4-dimensional universe might be a degenerate little "bottle neck" of the real thing?(Dr Smith Voice):Oh Dearrr,William,a 26-dimensional space monster!!!(/Dr Smith Voice)



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