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  GonzoStyle
Posted by: The Jays - 03-26-2004, 04:53 AM - Forum: The Pit - Replies (50)

Please check in.

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  Wrestling is for retards
Posted by: diceisgod - 03-25-2004, 09:08 PM - Forum: Entertainment Unlimited - Replies (8)

But I would check this out.

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  sound from flash player
Posted by: HedCold - 03-25-2004, 05:57 PM - Forum: Über Geek Zone - Replies (11)

does anyone know how to copy music from those online flash players? or know of a program that can record any sound going through your sound card

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  How the hell - did I get
Posted by: The Jays - 03-25-2004, 06:48 AM - Forum: The Pit - Replies (19)

5000 posts. God damn.

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  It's Alive!
Posted by: QuickStop - 03-25-2004, 02:40 AM - Forum: Über Geek Zone - Replies (19)

my first attempt at building a pc was a success. woot.
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  Losers.
Posted by: The Jays - 03-25-2004, 12:08 AM - Forum: The Stoner Forum - Replies (7)

Everyone else is such a bunch of losers.

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  Richard Clarke
Posted by: Keyser Soze - 03-24-2004, 09:36 PM - Forum: The Pit - Replies (32)

Several days ago, former White House counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke revealed how the Bush administration systematically mishandled 9/11 and Iraq.

As you may have heard, Richard Clarke, a former counter-terrorism advisor to Bush, and a registered Republican who has worked in every administration since Reagan, has exposed Bush's mishandling of 9/11 and the war on Iraq.1 In his book "Against All Enemies," Clarke does an amazing job of presenting the facts and connecting the dots. Instead of refuting Clarke's claims, the Bush Administration has launched a campaign of character assassination, hoping that the story will just go away.

When the World Trade Center was hit on the morning of 9/11, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice dubbed Richard Clarke, the administration's top counter-terrorism official, "crisis manager."3 As the White House, which was thought to be the next target, was evacuated, Clarke heroically stayed on, coordinating the government's response from the Situation Room in the West Wing.

Clarke is viewed by colleagues as a hawk, a "true believer" who doesn't play partisan politics.5 So the shocking facts he revealed about the Bush administration's approach to terrorism before 9/11 and its response after must be taken seriously. On Sunday, Clarke told reporters that the President and Defense Secretary downgraded counter-terrorism and ignored repeated warnings about an al Qaeda attack prior to 9/11. And, perhaps even more explosive, Clarke revealed that President Bush and senior administration officials wanted to bomb Iraq after 9/11 even though they knew that it had no connection to al Qaeda, and that al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks.

Already, the White House spin machine is in overdrive. Since they can't rebut Clarke's facts -- which independent witnesses have confirmed -- they're trying to paint him as an angry partisan, even though he's a Republican. But Clarke's words remain a searing indictment of the Bush Administration's campaign against terrorism.

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In his own words, here are some of Clarke's revelations:

Clarke repeatedly warned the Bush Administration about attacks from al Qaeda, starting in the first days of Bush's term. "But on January 24th, 2001, I wrote a memo to Condoleezza Rice asking for, urgently -- underlined urgently -- a Cabinet-level meeting to deal with the impending al Qaeda attack. And that urgent memo-- wasn't acted on."8 According to another Bush administration security official, Clarke "was the guy pushing hardest, saying again and again that something big was going to happen, including possibly here in the U.S." The official added that Clarke was likely sidelined because he had served in the previous (Clinton) administration.

In face-to-face meetings, CIA Director George Tenet warned President Bush repeatedly in the months before 9/11 that an attack was coming. According to Clarke, Tenet told the President that "A major al-Qaeda attack is going to happen against the United States somewhere in the world in the weeks and months ahead."

On September 12, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld pushed to bomb Iraq even though they knew that al Qaeda was in Afghanistan. "Rumsfeld was saying that we needed to bomb Iraq," Clarke said. "And we all said ... no, no. Al-Qaeda is in Afghanistan. We need to bomb Afghanistan. And Rumsfeld said there aren't any good targets in Afghanistan. And there are lots of good targets in Iraq. I said, 'Well, there are lots of good targets in lots of places, but Iraq had nothing to do with it.'"

Also on September 12, 2001, President Bush personally pushed Clarke to find evidence that Iraq was behind the attacks. From the New York Times: "'I want you, as soon as you can, to go back over everything, everything,' Mr. Clarke writes that Mr. Bush told him. 'See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way.' When Mr. Clarke protested that the culprit was Al Qaeda, not Iraq, Mr. Bush testily ordered him, he writes, to 'look into Iraq, Saddam,' and then left the room."

The Bush Administration knew from the beginning that there was no connection between Iraq and 9/11, but created the misperception in order to push their policy goals. "[Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush] did know better. They did know better. They did know better. We told them, the CIA told them, the FBI told them. They did know better. And the tragedy here is that Americans went to their death in Iraq thinking that they were avenging September 11th, when Iraq had nothing to do with September 11th. I think for a commander-in-chief and a vice president to allow that to happen is unconscionable."

The war on Iraq has increased the danger of terrorism. In his book, he writes that shifting from al Qaeda to Iraq "launched an unnecessary and costly war in Iraq that strengthened the fundamentalist, radical Islamic terrorist movement worldwide."

It's been well reported that President Bush intends to run on his record as a wartime President. Clarke's revelations show how deeply flawed that record is. But if we don't act fast, the public may not have a chance to evaluate the facts for themselves -- the story could go away quickly. With an ad, we can take Clarke's comments directly to the public. Can you help? Check out the script and donate whatever you can to get this story out there at:

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Richard Clarke had an intimate view -- perhaps the best view -- of how the Bush Administration responded to terrorism. So we should all listen carefully when he says:

"Frankly, I find it outrageous that the president is running for re-election on the grounds that he's done such great things about terrorism. He ignored it. He ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something to stop 9/11. Maybe. We'll never know. . . I think the way he has responded to al-Qaeda, both before 9/11 by doing nothing, and by what he's done after 9/11 has made us less safe, absolutely. I think he's done a terrible job on the war against terrorism."15
Together, we can make sure every American knows what President Bush's true record on terrorism really is.

Sincerely,
--Adam, Carrie, Eli, James, Joan, Laura, Wes, and Zack
The MoveOn PAC Team
March 24th, 2004

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  John Stossel - He kicks ass
Posted by: The Jays - 03-24-2004, 09:03 PM - Forum: The Pit - Replies (22)

John Stossel kicks everyone's ass.

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  I know I've done this before, but...
Posted by: Galt - 03-23-2004, 06:51 PM - Forum: The Pit - Replies (21)

some guy from the office has his wife and new baby here, and everyone else is oohhing and ahhing about their baby. The baby is probably 3 weeks old. Maybe a month. She's a couple feet away from me.

My first urge is to ask to hold her, and then grab her by the feet and swing her around and bash her head into a computer monitor. And then swing her around and chuck her accross the trading floor like a hammer throw.

I really have that urge every time I see a kid. But I like kids. They're cute.

I'd love to have a psychologist tell me what this is a sign of. I'm sure it's not a good thing.

But, man, that would be so funny to see the reaction on people's faces as I cracked her skull against my Trinitron.

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  Top 10 MCs
Posted by: Rooner - 03-23-2004, 03:31 PM - Forum: Noise Pollution - Replies (44)

Gimme your list. Of course its subjective. I dont need a ranking, just who you think are the best lyrically in any order.

1.BIG
2.Pac
3.Nas
4.Em
5.Jay
6.DMX
7.Raekwon
8.Red
9.Mobb Deep (I know, its a group, but they arent as strong seperate, same as #10)
10.OutKast

Honorable Mention

Meth
Kanye West
Snoop
Dre
Cube
B Real

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